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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jul 26, 2017 11:12:08 GMT -5
What are the highlights of the V2 debate and what seemed upsetting? I am not a member of TD. It's SD, not TD. TD was closed. The current thread is here: www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=18251.0A previous similar thread is here: www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=18098.0Boiling down to one non-trad and one reputed trad demanding dogmatically that Catholics "must accept" V2 in all its non-splendors, in all its pomps, in all its works, in all its deceptions, in all its errors. Neither poster has the authority to do so, and both are lacking, i.m.o. and in the opinions of several other posters, a proper understanding of the limits of the Council on the laity and what the Council did and didn't "do." I post this not to bring a conversation from another forum over here (although obviously TC'ers are free to start their own threads on the topic) but because you asked what all the fuss was about, so you can read those linked threads. Those threads are open to non-members to read. If they were in the SV forum, you'd have to be a registered member for access. SD is dogmatic RR...just as bad if not worse.
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Post by myrnam on Jul 27, 2017 8:43:48 GMT -5
I also tend to believe whoever insists on NOT ATTENDING is bordering on Donatism, which says the laity are responsible for the faults of the priest. Donatism defined: Donatists argued that Christian clergy must be faultless for their ministrations to be effective, and for the prayers and sacraments they conduct to be valid.
If the priest is valid one should go before the Blessed Sacrament and worship, the priest and his errors are his.
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Post by semperfidelis on Jul 31, 2017 6:18:23 GMT -5
Clotilde - Good advice. How old are your children? You could sign them up to the Tradcircle website, I used to be on there before I was fully ready to accept SVism (I'm not now though for various reasons). carloscamejo - Agreed. It is a shame. It also says on their website (https://yagincincy.wordpress.com/page/) you must "reject in principle and practice the SSPV policy of (a) refusing communion with the clergy of St. Gertrude the Great Church and its affiliates and of (b) denying sacraments to laymen who receive sacraments from said clergy." Well, I do reject that position and their denial of sacraments to people who assist at Thuc chapels, but the way they worded it, "and practice," makes it sound, at least to me, like people who attend the SSPV can not attend. I'm not sure, I did not ask for clarification as I do not attend the SSPV. I was a member of TradCircle so I know what it's all about. Unfortunately, it is too sectarian for my family, being that they profess obedience and affiliation with certain individuals and organizations that my family does not. Our approach will likely to be to continue to meet other families and make real-face-to-face connections as we can, therefore I don't see any of my children having much of an online life, ever. I just encourage them to pray for themselves and their future spouses and really, it's completely up to God. There are good young people on Trad Circle who certainly are not the sectarians that infect it. However, any Internet forum is only a tool by which to have an initial connection to other individual and most definitely not a means of dating or courtship. The face to face is the only way, in most cases, to effectively get to know and interact with a potential spouse. Which is why Tradcircle is a failure for the most part. Keyboard daters who are not ambitious enough to try to personally meet someone are not ready to be married.
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