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Post by Pacelli on Dec 30, 2017 17:34:07 GMT -5
For most moms, a knock at the door while homeschooling is merely an annoyance—but for Holly Curry and her family, that knock became a nightmare . . .
The day before, on the way to taking her kids to karate lessons, Holly had stopped at a local café to pick up some muffins for the kids. She left her kids in the locked van. The fan was running, it was a cool spring day, and she wasn't gone for more than five minutes.
But five minutes and a few muffins was all it took to change her family's life forever.
Two police officers met Holly when she returned to the van.
The officers briefly detained Holly and spoke with her about leaving the kids in the locked vehicle but did not charge her with a crime. (While Holly broke no law in Kentucky, and no harm came to the children, we do not advise parents to leave young children alone in their vehicles.) They insisted, however, that they had to file a child abuse report, and that the Kentucky Department of Human Based Services would be sending an investigator to the Currys' home.
That was only the beginning for the Curry family.
The next morning, as Holly read aloud to her daughters, she was interrupted by a loud banging on her front door.
The child protective services (CPS) investigator at the door, Jeanetta Childress, insisted that she had to come in and see Holly's children immediately. She didn't introduce herself or offer credentials and she didn't have a warrant. She just assumed that because she was a government agent, she had the legal authority to enter a private home and disrupt this family's day.
When Holly politely declined to let her inside the home, Investigator Childress left, but said she'd be back—this time with a police officer. True to her word, she came back a few hours later, not with a search warrant, but with a male deputy.
Again, Holly told the officials that with no warrant, she would not grant them permission to enter her home. But this time, the investigator and the deputy threatened to take custody of Holly's children if she did not let them in.
Scared, Holly had no way of knowing at that moment if they really had the power to seize her children, so she gave in and allowed them inside her home, believing the momentary intrusion would be less harmful to her children than being forcibly removed from her.
Once inside, Investigator Childress dragged the oldest daughter to her bedroom for an interrogation without asking for permission from Holly.
Imagine someone determining your parenting abilities by forcibly interrogating your young daughter!
But the most shocking chapter of this story is what happened next.
Returning with the oldest daughter, Investigator Childress insisted that she had "to take a look at the kids now."
She ripped the youngest out of Holly's lap and removed her diaper to check for bruises. She conducted an intrusive strip search on each of the six children, including Holly's daughters—in front of the male police officer.
A young girl, strip-searched by a government agent in front of a male stranger! Can you imagine this happening to your daughter?
When Investigator Childress asked Holly's son to take off his shirt and shorts, the boy looked to his mom to ask if it was okay. He had been trained by his mommy and daddy that no adult should ask him to undress or look at his privates without their permission.
As a father of seven, I am infuriated by what Investigator Childress did next.
Seeing the boy look to his mother, Childress stepped between them, blocking his view and said, "Show that cop your muscles." Then she pulled down his pants and looked down the front and back of his underwear.
In a few short seconds, she completely undermined Holly's training and the boy's trust that his mommy is his chief protector.
Investigator Childress, acting on behalf of the government, did way more harm than good to these kids—and for what?
These children may never again feel truly safe in their own home. The bond of trust they have with their mom has been severely damaged. And the traumatic experience of being strip-searched by a stranger cannot be undone.
But together, you and I can change the system that thinks this behavior is okay.
Every day, HSLDA is working to protect homeschooling families in the privacy of their own homes. We call it "the battle for the front door." Sometimes our cases have set important statewide precedents. Last year, Vanessa Wilson received $700,000 from Riverside County, California, after CPS investigators unjustly removed her kids. A case like that changes the way officials approach their jobs.
Holly was threatened because she asked for a warrant, as is her right. What happened to her could happen to you or me. . . .
That's why we just sued Investigator Childress and the deputy in federal court!
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Dec 31, 2017 7:34:57 GMT -5
I stopped reading after...she let them in. These stories infuriate me so much I cant read them for fear I will become Rambo! People...DO NOT LET ANYONE ENTER YOUR HOME WITHOUT A WARRANT. WHEN CPS SHOWED UP THE FIRST TIME HOLLY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A LAWYER RIGHT THEN. It was still not to late when CPS showed up with an officer. No warrant no entry. Call a lawyer. A hail Mary play is to call the State Police and make CPS wait till they come. And while your waiting...call your local state rep ( if not a liberal) call all your friends and family to come over....get your neighbor if a trusted friend. Get witnesses around. These cps scumdog witches and castrated males are cowards at their core. They feel brave one on one...surround them and they melt.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Dec 31, 2017 7:38:22 GMT -5
At least she was an hslda member. She seems to have forgotten their own advice though. They always advised that you get them on the phone immediatly whenever someone comes to the door from cps or police about homeschooling. BTW is there a father in this story?
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Post by Pacelli on Dec 31, 2017 20:59:05 GMT -5
I was wondering too where the dad was in all of this.
I think her first mistake was believing that America is still free, that she as a parent could leave her kids in a situation that she judged safe, and was objectively speaking safe. Is being a locked car for 5 minutes with the mom's knowledge seriously unsafe? Is it more unsafe to put your kids in the hands of strangers all day in a Public school?
It seems to me that the arbitrary made up ideas of police and social workers in exaggerating what abuse or negligence is, can be a pretext for taking children. It's crazy.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Dec 31, 2017 22:12:47 GMT -5
We got a call back when our kids were little..my wife was yardsaleing in our passenger van. She drove up to a yardsale saw something interesting. Shut off the van...got out...walked 5 feet from the van...looked at the item and got back in about 5 min later...later that day...ring ring" on the phone...local cps wanting to question her. Some POS nazi called them from their home to report her. Luckily we knew our rights and shut them down. That was decades ago...probebly not as easy today. America is full of rats and snakes and everycrawling thing!
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Post by jen51 on Dec 31, 2017 22:57:13 GMT -5
I've been following this story. I'm glad to hear HSLDA is going after them. They aren't just defending this poor family, but seeking justice for them.I hope they win big time.
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Post by heinrich on Jan 14, 2018 0:38:19 GMT -5
Assjoles.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jan 14, 2018 11:41:04 GMT -5
I read these things and know if they tried this with my family I WOULD be the one ending up in prison for a very long time.
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Post by heinrich on Jan 14, 2018 15:44:43 GMT -5
More need to take that attitude and display fortitude. The statists/leftists need a punch in the throat. Sadly, John and Jane Q. (re)public(an) idolize police. With an antagonistic media, any homeschool father who resists as you allude, would be excoriated.
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Post by Pacelli on Jan 14, 2018 16:24:33 GMT -5
More need to take that attitude and display fortitude. The statists/leftists need a punch in the throat. Sadly, John and Jane Q. (re)public(an) idolize police. With an antagonistic media, any homeschool father who resists as you allude, would be excoriated. The trouble is that resistance outside of the legal and political system can in many cases make things worse. If the police determine that you are a threat to them, real or imagined, more and more will come and things will escalate, and it will not end well for the person. The best defense of our legal rights right now is by having a lawyer on call, HSLDA fills that void for homeschoolers, and to make sure you vote and get others to vote. The principles that used to exist in our Republic are for the most part gone, and our natural and constitutional rights are no longer secure. This is the sad reality of out present situation.
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Post by heinrich on Jan 16, 2018 20:36:55 GMT -5
Exactly. Ask Randy Weaver.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jan 16, 2018 23:29:47 GMT -5
Everything wrong in the civil abuse of power begins at waco and ruby ridge.
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Post by Andrew on Jan 17, 2018 12:45:48 GMT -5
Everything wrong in the civil abuse of power begins at waco and ruby ridge. These are well known. Think about all the obscure power abuses we know nothing about. My biggest fears are the damnation of those entrusted to me(my own soul included); A kidnapping of one of my kids(could not rest until I knew or found them). And Srs,Cps or any SSSSS trouble. I pray for all of you in these regards and I BEG your prayers for my family.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jan 17, 2018 13:28:54 GMT -5
Everything wrong in the civil abuse of power begins at waco and ruby ridge. These are well known. Think about all the obscure power abuses we know nothing about. My biggest fears are the damnation of those entrusted to me(my own soul included); A kidnapping of one of my kids(could not rest until I knew or found them). And Srs,Cps or any SSSSS trouble. I pray for all of you in these regards and I BEG your prayers for my family. The fact of their Notoriety (Ruby Ridge had an extensive publicly broadcast Congressional Hearing) is what made them pivotal. The PUBLIC DID NOTHING! This gave the police state its green light. (And planners of 911 as well IMO)
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Post by Andrew on Jan 18, 2018 10:37:34 GMT -5
They already knew the public would do nothing. They know this- 1) Most Americans think the government is on the up and up no matter what barely filters through the corrupt media. 2) The other portion does not care and wants to be socialistic anyway. 3) Those last bastion who know whats up is in permanent survival mode and is scared of the David/Goliath situation.(IMHO)
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