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Post by heinrich on May 5, 2016 14:29:05 GMT -5
Pacelli articulates my position and what I judge my responsibility to be as a Catholic. Where can one find the writings of Pacelli? And Voxxboss, are you really delving into the lesser of two evils argument? |
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Post by Clotilde on May 5, 2016 15:01:08 GMT -5
Pacelli articulates my position and what I judge my responsibility to be as a Catholic. Where can one find the writings of Pacelli? And Voxxboss, are you really delving into the lesser of two evils argument? I don't think anyone here who will check the Trump box is actually voting for him because they like him. It is an effort to block a very unworthy candidate, which will be his opponent. There is no one that stands a good chance of election that would represent us Catholics. Working on such a candidate would be a waste of time, IMO. Any worthy candidate under the current system is not going to get in at the top level unless they have a boat load of money. I think it is more fruitful to support good local candidates and work on local issues than to go crazy on your friends and family over a third party Joe with a website. |
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Post by Pacelli on May 5, 2016 16:05:51 GMT -5
Pacelli articulates my position and what I judge my responsibility to be as a Catholic. Where can one find the writings of Pacelli? And Voxxboss, are you really delving into the lesser of two evils argument? Heinrich, i just posted some sources for you on this matter in the resources subforum: tradcath.proboards.com/thread/84/conditions-which-vote-unworthy-candidates?page=1&scrollTo=519Its easier to just put it there since this subject comes up a lot, and everyone will find it easily for a reference. |
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 5, 2016 16:06:43 GMT -5
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 5, 2016 16:08:54 GMT -5
Pacelli articulates my position and what I judge my responsibility to be as a Catholic. Where can one find the writings of Pacelli? And Voxxboss, are you really delving into the lesser of two evils argument? Yes in this case I am. And I know during the Ron Paul campaign I would not. But the problem there was that both obama and the whatshisname republican were both equally evil in my view and Ron Paul was the far superior choice. |
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Post by MiriamM on May 5, 2016 16:41:25 GMT -5
Pacelli articulates my position and what I judge my responsibility to be as a Catholic. Where can one find the writings of Pacelli? LOL. I'm sure that our poster Pacelli is flattered by the phrase, "the writings of Pacelli." Would that I were as renowned. |
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Post by Pacelli on May 5, 2016 16:45:02 GMT -5
I'm the first to admit that I'm just a nobody. I do, however, sit at the feet of the theologians and learn from them and trust them to teach me to correctly understand the Faith.
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Post by Laramie Hirsch on May 7, 2016 11:28:33 GMT -5
Has anyone else found the anti-Trump people to behave in a vile and unreasonable fashion? And I'm not talking about the Bernie Sanders paid protesters. I'm talking about the Cruz-supporting #NeverTrump people.
Have any of you had some acerbic engagements with these folks?
Looks like the Right is now in schism with itself.
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Post by Pacelli on May 7, 2016 11:50:51 GMT -5
Yes, I've noticed that they are being emotional and irrational. IMO, these people are forgetting the fact that this election does not merely elect the President, it indirectly is for the Supreme Court Justice(s).
Whether people want to admit this or not, the Supreme Court has morphed into the most powerful part of government, and they are able to effectively amend the Constitution at will. The only thing that has slowed the liberal members of the court down were the few Constitutional conservatives that wouldn't let them get away with it, as far as they were able to stop them.
There is no need to formally amend the Constitution anymore, just get the case up to the Supreme Court, and they will reinterpret it whatever way they want, applying ridiculous arguments to support their contention that their ideas are somehow implied by the document.
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Post by Laramie Hirsch on May 7, 2016 12:10:40 GMT -5
I've essentially been shunned and banned from a fellow Traditionalist Catholic's Facebook page because I keep making the case for supporting Trump. All he's been able to do is emote, emote, emote. When I present something of substance, he can only throw out more rhetoric and ad hominem. I've never seen this level of emotion from the Right before. It's pathetic.
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Post by heinrich on May 10, 2016 17:52:38 GMT -5
Brother Nathaniel has a good take on the Trump. Be wary, folks.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 16, 2016 21:16:06 GMT -5
http://youtu.be/eAVYjIfU3eA
This is an old interview but excellent and the Donald is SPOT ON...I dont know wht the illuminati title is about...just ignore that. But Trump is dead###s accurate. I cannot help but be impressed and hopeful for the country for a change.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 13:07:00 GMT -5
My own opinion here is somewhat complicated as usual. In my view Trump is an exceptionally virtuous Presbyterian politician. He makes deals with Jews and other undesirables, but like a fox. Like a smooth non-Catholic politician. He is much better than we deserve! He will do great things for Christianity. But the duty of leadership therefore becomes much more the responsibility of Roman Catholics than ever before. We must lead. Trump merely prepares the way for the Catholics to take the leadership role. What is to come after Trump is what really matters.
Nevertheless this Franciscan is praying with smoke pouring out my ears that Trump beats "the Whore of Arkansas" next November. In truth life on earth is pretty much hanging in the balance.
We live in exciting times.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 18, 2016 15:22:13 GMT -5
You like that whore of Arkansas bit eh...yeah that just pops out of my brain sometimes....and your spot on about the issue. What I find impressive is that Mr Trump is not a political opportunist...the video above is from an interview he did when the criminal Bush syndicate was in charge and he sounds and holds the same solid unwavering opinions in general today . This interview could have taken place last week. This says to me this man knows who he is and why he is here. Now all of this respect is only from a secular point of view. I liken it to admiration for a well made bridge even though it was constructed with prison labor. Mr Trump is a serial bigamist...weak on abortion and horrible on the sodom-nazi persecutors. He is not Catholic at all and he reaks of corrupt business dealings...but when you have to rescue a nation from a criminal banking class who better to do it than one of their own. Now all of my admiration will drop like a lead zeppelin if he chooses the wrong VP candidate. Reason being I feel there is a very high probability (sadly) that Mr Trump has a bullseye on him from the shadow govt that rules the USA and the world. (Jews) So his VP choice has the unfortunate burdan of being made POTUS very quickly.
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Post by Greg on May 20, 2016 9:59:31 GMT -5
I loved his recent interview with Katic Couric where he had re-tweeted a tweet where one of his fans had called her a bimbo.
"Did I re-tweet that?.....yes? Ooopps!!
I laughed out loud.
The man is a great entertainer.
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