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Post by Didymus on Jun 29, 2023 21:19:07 GMT -5
Apparently an Eastern Orthodox Bishop Bp. Yuri Yurchyk visited Bishop Pivarunas in 2002. In the photo you can see that they are in a ceremony or something. Do you know what really happened to him? Would there be jurisdiction provided by the Church to receive a heretic or schismatic back into the Church by a Sacramental Bishop? since Pivarunas does not have jurisdiction, I imagine that he cannot lift excommunications. From what other sources indicate, he apparently returned to the Orthodox and then went to the Novus Ordo. Apparently, he later tried to deny that he even abjured the error. risu.ua/en/kyivan-orthodox-bishop-denies-that-he-became-a-traditional-catholic_n110628?fbclid=IwAR0srnpmOjbT32ar-77IFlZ5uvmMDXOlwUhQd-Q00xR5BBy1NZdteam9Tr8Wikipedia does not mention his stint in traditionalism or at CMRI. If something like this happened again, would it help the cause or the restoration of the Church?
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Post by John Lewis on Jun 30, 2023 11:06:06 GMT -5
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Post by John Lewis on Jun 30, 2023 11:44:06 GMT -5
If something like this happened again, would it help the cause or the restoration of the Church? You say he went back to the Novus Ordo after this? Can you cite evidence?
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Post by Didymus on Jun 30, 2023 16:40:07 GMT -5
If something like this happened again, would it help the cause or the restoration of the Church? You say he went back to the Novus Ordo after this? Can you cite evidence? Hola John , I must correct my mistake, I only saw him on FB that he had returned to the Novus Ordo,but it seems to be just a hypothesis I have no official source, if I have reached another source that talks about him, apparently he was imprisoned "When he returned to his own country, the persecution was turned on and he was not permitted to speak again since. But from whatever place they have imprisoned him, his prayers carry much force for the conversion of Russia, as our Lady promised." I do not recommend the author of the article Griff Ruby, but this may be what happened with him.
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Post by John Lewis on Jul 2, 2023 1:29:15 GMT -5
You say he went back to the Novus Ordo after this? Can you cite evidence? Hola John , I must correct my mistake, I only saw him on FB that he had returned to the Novus Ordo,but it seems to be just a hypothesis I have no official source, if I have reached another source that talks about him, apparently he was imprisoned "When he returned to his own country, the persecution was turned on and he was not permitted to speak again since. But from whatever place they have imprisoned him, his prayers carry much force for the conversion of Russia, as our Lady promised." I do not recommend the author of the article Griff Ruby, but this may be what happened with him. View AttachmentHi Didymus, could you please links to sources rather than attachments? It doesn't provide me any opportunities to do further research based upon content that you've found.
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Post by Didymus on Jul 2, 2023 1:48:08 GMT -5
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Post by John Lewis on Jul 2, 2023 4:01:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. The book is entitled "The Resurrection of the Catholic Church" by Griff Ruby. I'll pass on reading it as his works have a lot of problems. Thanks for the screengrab as many of the pages in the book aren't viewable in the preview.
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Post by Didymus on Jul 2, 2023 9:24:04 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. The book is entitled "The Resurrection of the Catholic Church" by Griff Ruby. I'll pass on reading it as his works have a lot of problems. Thanks for the screengrab as many of the pages in the book aren't viewable in the preview. I did not want to publish the name for the same reason, since this author has serious problems and some may believe that it is a reliable quote.
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Post by John Lewis on Jul 2, 2023 19:18:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. The book is entitled "The Resurrection of the Catholic Church" by Griff Ruby. I'll pass on reading it as his works have a lot of problems. Thanks for the screengrab as many of the pages in the book aren't viewable in the preview. I did not want to publish the name for the same reason, since this author has serious problems and some may believe that it is a reliable quote. I think fair warning has been given.
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Post by Pacelli on Jul 3, 2023 10:11:38 GMT -5
In regards to Griff Ruby's book, "The Resurrection of the Catholic Church," it's historical, not doctrinal. The book is good from a historical perspective. I can't remember off hand if there are any doctrinal assertions in it, as it's been many years since I read it.
The name, though, is one thing I have a problem with, in order for a resurrection, one must have died, but the Church never died, ergo...."
With that said, if anyone wants background into the development of traditionalism in the 1970's and 80's the book is useful, but I urge caution with Griff Ruby, as he holds dangerous errors against the Faith, so be careful with anything he writes.
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