The Consistency of Donald Trump

[Pacelli]

For all the naysayers against Trump, especially the “Never-Trumpers” that say he just just says things to stir up his base, blah, blah blah, this old video from 1980 shows that Donald Trump today is the same man that he was in his 30’s and that his thinking is essentially the same today as it was decades ago.  

Trump clearly has personal moral issues, but as far as his political views and acts of governance go, this man has consistently  shown the virtue of patriotism, a true love for America, and a desire to see her return to her greatness prior to the dominance of liberalism in American politics.   

[Voxxkowalski]

I just wish he would keep us out of wars...syria was a big betrayal of his campaign promises.

[Pacelli]

Jul 18, 2018 6:39:48 GMT -5 Voxxkowalski said:

I just wish he would keep us out of wars...syria was a big betrayal of his campaign promises.

I believe this is his plan, to keep us out of foreign wars,  I think his advisors duped him into attacking Syria, but it’s clear that he has only allowed a very limited involvement there.  He hasn’t escalated the situation, by sending in waves of troops or allowing long term air campaigns.  

Trump’s acts in Syria are tiny compared to what Obama did to Libya, toppling the government and allowing the leader to be murdered, Bush who launched massive land and air attacks against Afghanistan and Iraq overthrowing their governments and entangling us in decades long nation rebuilding.  Then, there was Clinton who through NATO pummmeled Yugoslavia with a relentless air campaign, and the elder George Bush who launched a massive war against Iraq to allegedly protect Kuwait, a country that cares less about the United Statss.  

It seems to me that Trump is more like Reagan who took limited short term actions to (rightly or wrongly) problem solve  difficult situations in the world, but did not want to start wars, overthrow leaders by military force, or have long term occupation of foreign countries.  

[Voxxkowalski]

You forgot bush snr atrocities in Panama....Yeah I get that Pacelli...but he also was vociferous against syria in his words. And it betrayed a certain nievete that really disappointed me...also the recent recanting of his words at the Putin summit...hes right...the intelligence services in our country are more of a threat than Putin. He needs to keep his spine...I am otherwise very happy with him.

[Pacelli]

Jul 19, 2018 23:36:25 GMT -5 Voxxkowalski said:

You forgot bush snr atrocities in Panama....Yeah I get that Pacelli...but he also was vociferous against syria in his words. And it betrayed a certain nievete that really disappointed me...also the recent recanting of his words at the Putin summit...hes right...the intelligence services in our country are more of a threat than Putin. He needs to keep his spine...I am otherwise very happy with him.

I agree Voxx, it’s good that you brought up Panama.  I think Trump will essentially keep his spine, but like any of us, he can be deceived at least to a certain degree.  I highly doubt that the Syrian govt. would have been stupid enough to use chemical weapons on their people, especially considering that the entire world is watching.  The fact that Trump bought into this narrative shows that it is possible to even dupe a great man, but fortunately he did not take any drastic actions such as using it as a pretext for an invasion or other long term acts of war.  

Its worth mentioning that the Syrian leader has consistently protected the eastern rite Syrian Catholics living in Syria.  If the government falls, Catholics will be at the mercy of a new and possibly very hostile government.  Chaldean rite Catholics in Iraq were protected by Saddam Hussein, who obviously like Assad was no saint, but he at least kept them safe.  

When our government topples these governments, Catholics are almost always the losers. 

[Voxxkowalski]

On the Point about what happened to Iraq after Saddam was assasinated...

[pauljoseph]

Jul 15, 2018 11:52:42 GMT -5 Pacelli said:

1) this old video from 1980 shows that Donald Trump today is the same man that he was in his 30’s
2) and that his thinking is essentially the same today as it was decades ago.  
3) as far as his political views and
4) acts of governance go, this man has
5) consistently  shown the virtue of patriotism, a true love for America, and a desire to see her return to her greatness 

Sorry, I am tired of being 'played' by the powers who determine our electoral 'choices' in the 'uniparty' elections.

(5) America was founded by Freemasons upon a foundation of indifferentism: A direct affront to Catholicism and to the Kingship of Jesus Christ.

I lack the time/energy/resources to weed out all the examples in the following video that contradict the assertions 1-5 (above). See them, log them, decipher them, and decide for yourselves:  . The compiler of this video is unknown to me, but many of the concepts, facts, and realities he presents are mirrored in other sources I've encountered over decades past. I have only to add that because he doesn't identify as a Catholic he is lacking key insights pertinent to the scenarios he paints. For those insights, I would recommend reading four lectures by Cardinal Manning, a convert to Catholicism, summarizing the thoughts, commentaries, and prophesies of the early Church Fathers:  www.todayscatholicworld.com/present_crisis_of_the_holy_see_manning.pdf

[Voxxkowalski]

when you live in a freemasonic prison camp as a Catholic pauljoseph...which what the USA is imo....thereis nothing wrong with favoring the more kind and just prison guard over another. We're not going to escape so we must do the best we can with what were given.

[Pacelli]

Feb 4, 2019 1:11:07 GMT -5 pauljoseph said:

Jul 15, 2018 11:52:42 GMT -5 Pacelli said:

1) this old video from 1980 shows that Donald Trump today is the same man that he was in his 30’s
2) and that his thinking is essentially the same today as it was decades ago.  
3) as far as his political views and
4) acts of governance go, this man has
5) consistently  shown the virtue of patriotism, a true love for America, and a desire to see her return to her greatness 

Sorry, I am tired of being 'played' by the powers who determine our electoral 'choices' in the 'uniparty' elections.

(5) America was founded by Freemasons upon a foundation of indifferentism: A direct affront to Catholicism and to the Kingship of Jesus Christ.

I lack the time/energy/resources to weed out all the examples in the following video that contradict the assertions 1-5 (above). See them, log them, decipher them, and decide for yourselves:  . The compiler of this video is unknown to me, but many of the concepts, facts, and realities he presents are mirrored in other sources I've encountered over decades past. I have only to add that because he doesn't identify as a Catholic he is lacking key insights pertinent to the scenarios he paints. For those insights, I would recommend reading four lectures by Cardinal Manning, a convert to Catholicism, summarizing the thoughts, commentaries, and prophesies of the early Church Fathers:  www.todayscatholicworld.com/present_crisis_of_the_holy_see_manning.pdf

Well, let’s take this one step at a time.  You state that the documentation contradicts all five assertions I made.  How do you believe this contradicts my assertion #1:

1) this old video from 1980 shows that Donald Trump today is the same man that he was in his 30’s

[pauljoseph]

Let's 'move on' to Trump/the Kushners welcoming, facilitating, promoting, and awaiting--along with Washington, DC's Freemasons--the building of the Third Temple:

00:13:42 ...there are those who are among
the Faith Council for Donald Trump but
especially among the Jewish camp that do
really believe that God Almighty put
Donald Trump in office as a Cyrus-like
figure ultimately for the purposes of
regaining control over the Temple Mount
and the construction of a third temple
and that is the reason why some of them
are being so vocal about it including
members of the Sanhedrin that is also
 why Netanyahu sent a message that didn't
go unnoticed by myself and a lot of
other people when he stood up the day
after Donald Trump recognized Jerusalem
as the capital of Israel and ordered our
embassy to be moved there and that Yahoo
got up and said Donald Trump that was
not only making history but he said it
was its imbued with prophecy and then he
made this famous statement the Temple
Mount is in our hand...

"MAGA"? Really? Or: "MIGA"

[Pacelli]

I’m still waiting for you to answer my question to you above and defend your allegation against me.  You not yet answered it.  You need to settle point #1 before we can move to point #2.  This was your assertion, so feel free to retract if you cannot or will not answer.  

[pauljoseph]

Feb 25, 2019 0:40:38 GMT -5 Pacelli said:

I’m still waiting for you to answer my question to you above and defend your allegation against me.  You not yet answered it.  You need to settle point #1 before we can move to point #2.  This was your assertion, so feel free to retract if you cannot or will not answer.  

How about Trump's old buddy Jeffrey Epstein who Trump hasn't publicly repudiated:  If Trump still admires this convicted pederast than I guess he still is the same man he was 30 years ago...
In his 30's, Trump wasn't father-in-law to Jared Kushner, resident-owner of 666 Fifth Avenue, NYC...
In his 30's, Trump began mentoring under homosexual mobster Roy Cohn. He was charmed/nursed/taught/and adapted Cohn's modus operandi: " 'You knew when you were in Cohn’s presence you were in the presence of pure evil,' said lawyer Victor A. Kovner, who had known him for years. Cohn’s power derived largely from his ability to scare potential adversaries with hollow threats and spurious lawsuits. And the fee he demanded for his services? Ironclad loyalty.' " www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/donald-trump-roy-cohn-relationship So, depending upon when exactly Trump became adept in Cohn's craft, I guess you could say he is now the 'same' as when he was in his 30's.
That is, unless you think his later dealings with Michael Cohen caused a turn-around in character, values, and personality?
But let's look at Trump's most personal character, his commitment to his wife as a practicing Presbyterian Protestant Christian. Married to Ivana at 31, he broke his marriage vows to her at age 46. Marriage between baptized Christians is considered a sacrament by the Church, so Trump was committing public adultery when he took Marla as his consort at age 47. Later, Trump compounded his adultery taking Melania as his second, adulterous consort at age 59. So I guess the argument is proven: Trump, lawfully wedded in his 30's, later betrayed his marital vows to two women, becoming a polygamist in a third, adulterous consortium, currently declared as his "Christian marriage". 
Personally, I find no honor or greatness in America's embrace of legalized, civil, no-fault divorce--especially as-practiced by the Protestant tradition, and diametrically-opposed to Catholicism's standard of Holy (monogamous) Matrimony. Nor do I find cause as a Roman Catholic to celebrate American exceptionalism as posited by the Freemasonic, Protestant-ethic, materialist cult. 

Now I invite you to visit the video I've posted concerning the Trump dynasty's role-playing in the coming-attraction of the Third Temple, and all that that entails for "making-Israel-great-again"...

[Voxxkowalski]

still better than killary

[Pacelli]

You still have not shown that assertion #1 is incorrect.  I am not arguing Trump is a saint or even a personally good man, so to argue as you are doing is all a non-sequitor.  Assertion #1 has nothing to do with his character or morals, only his consistency.

Every point you have made including your evidence does not contradict assertion #1.  Your statement was that the video you provided contradicts all five of my assertions.  I am still waiting to see how the video contradicts even the first assertion.  It’s not up to me to prove your assertion that I stand contradicted, it’s up to you, and you have yet to do it, even on the first point.  

[pauljoseph]

Feb 27, 2019 10:45:02 GMT -5 Pacelli said:

You still have not shown that assertion #1 is incorrect.  I am not arguing Trump is a saint or even a personally good man, so to argue as you are doing is all a non-sequitor.  Assertion #1 has nothing to do with his character or morals, only his consistency.

Every point you have made including your evidence does not contradict assertion #1.  Your statement was that the video you provided contradicts all five of my assertions.  I am still waiting to see how the video contradicts even the first assertion.  It’s not up to me to prove your assertion that I stand contradicted, it’s up to you, and you have yet to do it, even on the first point.  

Sorry. I refuse to split a person's private persona from their public one. I am not a psychiatrist (nor are you) nor have I any interest in 'proving' Trump's whatever to you/anyone else. If any person were to prove your private assertion regarding Trump's patriotism from age 30 to the present, that would not overrule or obviate his public disdain for Christ's Church and the Truths it upholds, especially as-regards Holy Matrimony and the Sixth Commandment of the Decalogue. You continue to avoid confronting Trump's/America's substitution of 'American exceptionalism (?M.A.G.A.?)' (predicated upon (Constitutional) Freemasonic indifferentism) for the Kingship of Jesus Christ.

THAT is the measure by which any politician or statesman must be measured.

FROM POPE INNOCENT TO JEROME

Innocent expresses his sympathy with Jerome and promises to take strong measures to punish his opponents if he will bring specific charges against them. The date of the letter is A.D. 417.

Innocent to his most esteemed son, the presbyter Jerome.

The apostle (10) bears witness that contention has never done good in the church; and for this reason he gives direction that heretics should be admonished once or twice in the beginning of their heresy and not subjected to a long series of rebukes. Where this rule is negligently observed, the evil to be guarded against so far from being evaded is rather intensified.

Your grief and lamentation have so affected us that we can neither act nor advise.

To begin however, we commend you for the constancy of your faith. To quote your own words spoken many times in the ears of many, a man will gladly face misrepresentation or even personal danger on behalf of the truth; if he is looking for the blessedness that is to come. We remind you of what you have yourself preached although we are sure that you need no reminder. The spectacle of these terrible evils has so thoroughly roused us that we have hastened to put forth the authority of the apostolic see to repress the plague in all its manifestations; but as your letters name no individuals and bring no specific charges, there is no one at present against whom we can proceed. But we do all that we can; we sympathize deeply with you. And if you will lay a clear and unambiguous accusation against any persons in particular we will appoint suitable judges to try their cases; or if you, our highly esteemed son, think that it is needful for us to take yet graver and more urgent action, we shall not be slow to do so. Meantime we have written to our brother bishop John, advising him to act more considerately, so that nothing may occur in the church committed to him which it is his duty to foresee and to prevent, and that nothing may happen which may subsequently prove a source of trouble to him.

(10) Titus 3:10,11

JEROME, “The Letters of St. Jerome”, St. Jerome: Letters and Select Works (ed. P. SCHAFF – H. WACE) (A Select Library of the Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers of the Christian Church, Second Series; New York 1893) VI, 280-281.