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Post by jen51 on Jul 14, 2017 13:43:28 GMT -5
Within my family and dwindling lot of non-Catholic friends I hear some strange reasons as to why the number of children should be limited.
I have one friend who decided that she could not have any more children because her elderly landlord died and left both of her children $30k that they may claim upon turning 21 years of age. It wouldn't be fair to the later children, therefore they cannot have anymore children. They act as if there is no other way.
One relative is worried about the amount of children I may have because if I have more than a few, none of them will be able to inherit as much land from him as he would like.
Just last night someone told me that 2 kids is enough because they are expensive, but if we do decide to have more, I should wait.
Is it a coincidence that all of these reasons mentioned here, and so many more revolve around money and possessions? I think not.
I was discussing this with my husband last night and he said something that I had not thought of. Just as countries have patron Saints, could the Devil assign a certain demon to inflict a country by setting up an idol that keeps the culture from God? Or several idols. I just find it utterly bizarre that any of the above listed reasons would be a reason to stop having kids. As bizarre as it may seem to us, nearly everyone in the States would see it as completely rational. Not only that, but the responsible and loving thing to do. And those who don't have that mindset are more often than not looked at as irresponsible or ignorant. Where does this madness come from? And how is it so pervasive?
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Post by Clotilde on Jul 14, 2017 14:50:39 GMT -5
Two is respectable Three must have been an accident Four you are crazy Five, you are a lost cause, bless your heart
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jul 14, 2017 16:24:59 GMT -5
Two is respectable Three must have been an accident Four you are crazy Five, you are a lost cause, bless your heart How are any of these "reasons" respectable?
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Post by micah1199 on Jul 14, 2017 16:40:14 GMT -5
It all boils down to greed, selfishness, and sin for people and limiting children.
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Post by Damaged Goods on Jul 14, 2017 16:41:09 GMT -5
When St. Pius X wrote about "the sewer of all heresies" he was actually referring to the United States of America.
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Post by Clotilde on Jul 14, 2017 16:57:21 GMT -5
Two is respectable Three must have been an accident Four you are crazy Five, you are a lost cause, bless your heart How are any of these "reasons" respectable? Just citing what has been said to me over the years, in the eyes of worldings.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jul 14, 2017 17:01:15 GMT -5
To this day...I remember with shock...after telling a certain "Catholic" relative the good news of the conception of number4....(my daughter) mrs....she should get her tubes tied."
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Post by jen51 on Jul 14, 2017 19:08:33 GMT -5
To this day...I remember with shock...after telling a certain "Catholic" relative the good news of the conception of number4....(my daughter) mrs....she should get her tubes tied." Reading this made my stomach turn. I'm sure that was difficult for you and your wife. I know I would be terribly hurt. I know my family is going to start telling me I need to do that, because that is what my mother did after two cesareans. The common thing to do after a cesarean, since you're opened up and all, is to have your tubes tied before getting stitched back up. How convenient. A couple weeks before my second was born, my sister asked if that was what I was going to do. It really took me off guard. I think my horrified face took her off guard, too. At least I already see it coming, but I know it's still going to hurt when people scold me upon hearing that we are expecting again (God willing). You know another thing that bothers me? The popular opinion these days is that it is nobody's business to pressure married couples to have children when they don't want to. But it's their business to tell you that you should not have more children? Someone explain that one to me. Sorry, I'm really bothered by this subject today if you cannot tell.
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Post by jen51 on Jul 14, 2017 19:12:25 GMT -5
For those of you who have dealt with people telling you to stop having children, or hinting that you should- what do you say to them? Even though it is insulting, I would still like to answer them gracefully. You never know when a kind reaction to a harsh comment will change someones heart.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jul 14, 2017 19:46:59 GMT -5
Sometimes ostensibly Catholic people leave me slack jawed by what comes out of their mouth.
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Post by jen51 on Jul 14, 2017 19:58:40 GMT -5
Sometimes ostensibly Catholic people leave me slack jawed by what comes out of their mouth. Yes! The other day a woman that my husband was talking with said that they should be expecting the announcement of a grandchild soon since their son's wife is off the pill now. He just about dropped the phone. They're Catholic!
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jul 14, 2017 23:51:59 GMT -5
For those of you who have dealt with people telling you to stop having children, or hinting that you should- what do you say to them? Even though it is insulting, I would still like to answer them gracefully. You never know when a kind reaction to a harsh comment will change someones heart. I usually just say that they keep me out of trouble.
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jul 14, 2017 23:53:09 GMT -5
My husband's coworker once commented, "You really know how to pop them out!"
What do you say to that?
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Post by jen51 on Jul 15, 2017 7:29:59 GMT -5
My husband's coworker once commented, "You really know how to pop them out!" What do you say to that? Lol. In that moment of awkwardness, I'd probably reply, "yep!"
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jul 15, 2017 11:31:30 GMT -5
My husband's coworker once commented, "You really know how to pop them out!" What do you say to that? Lol. In that moment of awkwardness, I'd probably reply, "yep!" Response: Just trying to fill the world with better people.
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