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Post by Pacelli on Sept 25, 2023 8:26:16 GMT -5
There has been a large growth of the resistance movement started by Fr. Pfieffer, and I am posting below a chart someone made that shows his order tree, at each stage including those who consecrated him and who ordained and consecrated them. It's the best chart I have seen on this helping to better grasp how this lineage goes back. Obviously, the chart is biased, as the chart clearly states that his episcopal orders are doubtful. I agree with the maker of this chart on the conclusion that the orders are doubtful. SOURCE
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Post by Pacelli on Sept 25, 2023 17:49:47 GMT -5
In my opinion, this video should be watched prior to requesting the sacraments from any priest or bishop through the Slupski line:
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Post by FrCJSpray on Sept 27, 2023 14:27:13 GMT -5
One thing to clairfy is that +Laborie was conditionally ordained and consecrated by +Thuc in 1977... Any of his ordinations and consecrations before then must be considered suspect.
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Post by John Lewis on Sept 27, 2023 22:48:53 GMT -5
One thing to clairfy is that +Laborie was conditionally ordained and consecrated by +Thuc in 1977... Any of his ordinations and consecrations before then must be considered suspect. Elaborate please. Not everyone presumes the Thuc line to be invalid.
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Post by FrCJSpray on Sept 28, 2023 9:14:03 GMT -5
One thing to clairfy is that +Laborie was conditionally ordained and consecrated by +Thuc in 1977... Any of his ordinations and consecrations before then must be considered suspect. Elaborate please. Not everyone presumes the Thuc line to be invalid. Before 1977, +Laborie had dubious orders from some non-Catholic sect. It wasn't until 1977 that he was conditionally consecrated by Abp. Thuc. Thus, his orders BEFORE being conditionally ordained and consecrated by Abp. Thuc are suspect. I am not saying the Thuc line is invalid. I am saying the exact opposite.
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Post by John Lewis on Oct 4, 2023 20:55:20 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying.
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