How to deal with rejection of Pius XII’ liturgy
Jul 16, 2023 11:07:13 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2023 11:07:13 GMT -5
Hello everyone,
I regularly attend a sede chapel and the priest there uses the pre-1955 liturgy. At the beginning, I didn’t give much thought to the matter and even carelessly agreed with his rejection of Pius XII’ Holy Week.
However, some time ago I gave more thought to the matter and the relevant principles and (thanks in part to what Pacelli wrote here on the forum) I concluded that it is certainly wrong to reject the Pope’s laws. I did not draw any practical consequences though.
Last week after mass I was talking to some of the attendees of the chapel. They were extremely harsh in their criticism of all Popes beginning from Benedict XV and including Pius XII. It was mostly impious and unproven conspiratorial junk and I should have probably been more firm in opposing what they said. Now that I reflected on it, it was truly horrible how they talked about Pope Pius XII especially.
I think this in part due to fact that the priest there and his group publicly criticise the Pope and especially his liturgical changes very harshly.
Now that I am thinking more about it, it is truly scandalous how these priests talk about the laws of Holy Mother Church and it is totally unacceptable and criminal to pick and choose yourself what liturgy you are going to follow. Theologians talk explicitly about the fact that when there is no Pope, the primacy lives on in the Papal laws that do not lose their force.
I obviously realise that the current situation is confusing and I by no means intend to judge anyone to be ill-willed. Nonetheless, I perceive a duty to be faithful to the Church and not to any sede sect where people believe to be the last true Catholics on earth and are so presumptuous to even judge the true Popes. They may be ignorant about the relevant principles or the gravity of the matter, but this doesn’t take anything away from the grave scandal being caused.
I really want to have nothing to do with this, and now that I considered it again I am not even sure that I am allowed to attend the mass in which the laws of the Church are being deliberately publicly broken. This little group is also very strongly influenced by sectarian attitudes and is excessively anti-SSPX which I am finding more and more absurd, bitter and outrageous, since they themselves have no problem criticising true Popes.
Does anyone have any advice?
I regularly attend a sede chapel and the priest there uses the pre-1955 liturgy. At the beginning, I didn’t give much thought to the matter and even carelessly agreed with his rejection of Pius XII’ Holy Week.
However, some time ago I gave more thought to the matter and the relevant principles and (thanks in part to what Pacelli wrote here on the forum) I concluded that it is certainly wrong to reject the Pope’s laws. I did not draw any practical consequences though.
Last week after mass I was talking to some of the attendees of the chapel. They were extremely harsh in their criticism of all Popes beginning from Benedict XV and including Pius XII. It was mostly impious and unproven conspiratorial junk and I should have probably been more firm in opposing what they said. Now that I reflected on it, it was truly horrible how they talked about Pope Pius XII especially.
I think this in part due to fact that the priest there and his group publicly criticise the Pope and especially his liturgical changes very harshly.
Now that I am thinking more about it, it is truly scandalous how these priests talk about the laws of Holy Mother Church and it is totally unacceptable and criminal to pick and choose yourself what liturgy you are going to follow. Theologians talk explicitly about the fact that when there is no Pope, the primacy lives on in the Papal laws that do not lose their force.
I obviously realise that the current situation is confusing and I by no means intend to judge anyone to be ill-willed. Nonetheless, I perceive a duty to be faithful to the Church and not to any sede sect where people believe to be the last true Catholics on earth and are so presumptuous to even judge the true Popes. They may be ignorant about the relevant principles or the gravity of the matter, but this doesn’t take anything away from the grave scandal being caused.
I really want to have nothing to do with this, and now that I considered it again I am not even sure that I am allowed to attend the mass in which the laws of the Church are being deliberately publicly broken. This little group is also very strongly influenced by sectarian attitudes and is excessively anti-SSPX which I am finding more and more absurd, bitter and outrageous, since they themselves have no problem criticising true Popes.
Does anyone have any advice?