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Post by Pacelli on Feb 20, 2018 12:49:48 GMT -5
Young Protestant You Tube star converts to Catholicism and gives her reasons.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Feb 20, 2018 17:26:11 GMT -5
I would ask if Christ revealed this to her and opened her Spiritual eyes directly? Personally. Because Fess and I are in a deep seated debate on how the individual comes to know the Truth of Christ and His Mystical Body.
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Post by Barbara on Feb 20, 2018 18:02:57 GMT -5
Well God bless this little lady. She has a long way to go, of course, but she is on the right track and seems sincere in seeking the Truth. I appreciated her honesty about having difficulty with Mary, though she is willing to believe what the Church teaches about her.
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Post by Pacelli on Feb 20, 2018 20:57:32 GMT -5
I would ask if Christ revealed this to her and opened her Spiritual eyes directly? Personally. Because Fess and I are in a deep seated debate on how the individual comes to know the Truth of Christ and His Mystical Body. It all depends on how the term “revealed” is used. God brings us individually to know the truth, and it seems clear to me at least that he inspired this young girl to the find the truth. As far as revealed truth is concerned, however, all that has been revealed has already been revealed. God did not reveal anything new to her, He brought her to know and believe the existing revealed truth.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Feb 20, 2018 22:47:16 GMT -5
I would ask if Christ revealed this to her and opened her Spiritual eyes directly? Personally. Because Fess and I are in a deep seated debate on how the individual comes to know the Truth of Christ and His Mystical Body. It all depends on how the term “revealed” is used. God brings us individually to know the truth, and it seems clear to me at least that he inspired this young girl to the find the truth. As far as revealed truth is concerned, however, all that has been revealed has already been revealed. God did not reveal anything new to her, He brought her to know and believe the existing revealed truth. I understand that...but the credulity of her to belive those Revelations to be true in spite of her protestant bias shows that Christ does "open our eyes" (reveals) himself to us. So I feel he reveals to us when something isnt true as well. Yes?
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Post by Pacelli on Feb 20, 2018 23:57:51 GMT -5
It all depends on how the term “revealed” is used. God brings us individually to know the truth, and it seems clear to me at least that he inspired this young girl to the find the truth. As far as revealed truth is concerned, however, all that has been revealed has already been revealed. God did not reveal anything new to her, He brought her to know and believe the existing revealed truth. I understand that...but the credulity of her to belive those Revelations to be true in spite of her protestant bias shows that Christ does "open our eyes" (reveals) himself to us. So I feel he reveals to us when something isnt true as well. Yes? I think the word “reveals” can lead to a certain ambiguity, which is what I was getting at in my last post. I understand what you mean, and I agree with you. The term, “revelation” is more generally used with the revelation given by God known as the deposit of Faith, but of course if God is opening our eyes to the truths He wants us to know, i.e. to identify the true Church, he is leading us to know information that was previously unknown to a particular person, so in that sense He is revealing an existing truth to an ignorant person, by making one aware of this truth that they did not see before. God is constantly working on all of us, and this includes non-Catholics, with interior inspirations to come to know Him, love Him and to serve Him. He can also reveal things to us privately (private revelation), although this is not common.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 6:42:34 GMT -5
"Revealed" can be taken in different senses. It can answer the question "how" or it can answer the question "what". In this case, "what" was revealed to her is the content of the faith that she learned through her bible as a Protestant. She didn't come up with the Incarnation, Trinity, Redemption, and Ressurection all on her own in a vacuum. She came to know these truths through reading them and hearing them from others, who had received it from others, who had received it from others, all the way back to the Apostles. "How" she came to believe in this revelation as best preserved by the Catholic Church is and always will be the action of grace.
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Post by Caillin on Feb 21, 2018 8:28:51 GMT -5
I recently learned that an old high school friend of mine (I walked with him for graduation), who I haven’t seen or spoken to in about 14 years, converted to Catholicism, and has written an autobiographical chapter in an Ignatius Press book, “Evangelical Exodus.” I might post more about it, since it’s quite interesting, and could have an impact on my family and friends (vastly Protestant and indifferent) back in my home state.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Feb 21, 2018 9:01:29 GMT -5
"Revealed" can be taken in different senses. It can answer the question "how" or it can answer the question "what". In this case, "what" was revealed to her is the content of the faith that she learned through her bible as a Protestant. She didn't come up with the Incarnation, Trinity, Redemption, and Ressurection all on her own in a vacuum. She came to know these truths through reading them and hearing them from others, who had received it from others, who had received it from others, all the way back to the Apostles. "How" she came to believe in this revelation as best preserved by the Catholic Church is and always will be the action of grace. Its not about "knowing the Truths" its about believing what you "know" is true. Richard Dawkins "knows the Gospels" but he doesn't believe them to be true.
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