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Post by maccabeanuprising on Aug 18, 2017 20:35:58 GMT -5
Amazingly, it seems that the entire history of the Catholic Church is actually prefigured by the history of Israel in the Old Testament, event for event, and in the same chronological order! Because of this, it is possible to read the Old Testament prophecies from the Book of Daniel (which pertained to Old Testament kingdoms and empires) and see another fulfillment of these prophecies in the actual history of the Catholic Church! Here is our latest video that documents the "70 weeks of years" prophecy from the Book of Daniel, chapter 9. It exposes the Novus ordo as the abomination of desolation, and also shows how the signing of Novus Ordo by Paul VI on April 3rd, 1969 is paralleled (in multiple ways) with the Crucifixion of Our Lord on April 3rd, 33 AD. - both were on April 3rd
- both were on a Friday
- both had penumbral lunar eclipses over the Holy City
- both were on a Jewish Passover
- both constituted the taking away of Christ from His people
Anyway, there is much more in this video, so I hope you enjoy it! Ave Maria.
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Post by mikemac on Aug 19, 2017 20:15:33 GMT -5
Interesting. April 3rd, 1969 was actually a Thursday though, not a Friday. www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1969Although I guess this might not make much difference because at 22:00 minutes into the video you compare Antiochus placing the "abomination of desolation" on the new second altar on the 15th of Kislev to the Novus Ordo being mandated by Nov. 28th, 1971, the date which corresponds with the 15th of Kislev on the Jewish calendar. But then you go on to say that Nov. 28, 1971 was actually the 10th of Kislev, the Sunday before the 15th of Kislev. Close. But wouldn't some compare this to horse shoes and hand grenades? "And he shall confirm the covenant with many, in one week: and in the half of the week the victim and the sacrifice shall fall: and there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation: and the desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end." (Daniel 9:27) If the Novus Ordo is the "abomination of desolation" in Daniel 9:27 and "the desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end" then does Our Lady of Fatima's words not contradict this when she says Her Immaculate Heart will triumph, the Pope will consecrate Russia and we will see a period of peace? I don't want to rain on your parade maccabeanuprising but I think Daniel 9:27 has often been compared to 2 Thessalonians 2. Many believe that the abomination of desolation is referring to the Jews building the Third Temple in Jerusalem and having the antichrist sit in it. "[3] Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, [4] Who opposeth, and is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself as if he were God." (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4)
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Aug 19, 2017 20:41:38 GMT -5
This is the problem with lay biblical exegesis.
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Post by maccabeanuprising on Aug 19, 2017 20:53:55 GMT -5
Wow! I have been looking at this material for so long, and I've been going over it so much that I forget sometimes what I originally read. I tried to fact check every little piece of info before making a video, but I let that one slip through the cracks. April 3rd is a Thursday, and I remember knowing that last year some time. I guess one could look at it in the sense that Our Lord's suffering started on Holy Thursday, and continued on to Good Friday.... so this might be similar. I know some would argue this point.... but, there is an element of poetry.
As for it being the 10th of Kislev, and not the 15th... it wouldn't have made any sense for Paul VI to mandate it by December 3rd, 1971 since that was a Friday, and there was no Sunday obligation. It would have been odd for him to do so. They said they wanted to mandate it on Nov 28th because that was the start of Advent, I think.... that was their reason. But, the fact that he does it the closest Sunday to the 15th of Kislev without going past the date, is significant. Paul VI could have chosen any Sunday he wanted.. but he chose the Sunday closest to the 15th of Kislev.
As for your last comment about the third temple in Jerusalem.... there is plenty more corroborating information to support this conclusion about the abomination of desolation being the Novus Ordo. It is too much to type out now, but I'm going to be putting it in videos eventually.
Here are a couple points that lead to that conclusion:
1. The Jews house of worship (Temple) was taken over 1. Our Churches were invaded by modernists 2. Antiochus took down the ornaments in the Temple 2. Catholic ornaments were taken down across the world 3. Antiochus puts up a second altar in the Temple 3. A second 'altar' goes up in all Catholic churches 4. A new sacrifice is made on the second altar 4. Novus Ordo, or the "new order" is said on the new second altar (this is called the abomination of desolation) 5. One old priest refused this new sacrifice 5. One old bishop refused to say the Novus Ordo 6. This priest, Mathathias fled to the hills with his followers 6. Archbishop Lefebvre started SSPX in the Alps 7. Antiochus built new altars all around Judea that were 7. New modern churches were built, without a Traditional Catholic altar meant exclusively for his new sacrifice 8. Women thrust themselves into the Temple holy places 8. Women thrust themselves into roles as lecture, eucharistic minister, etc. when they were never allowed there before
There are a lot more parallels... but consider the words of Christ
Mathew 24: 15-16 "When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand. Then they that are in Judea, let them flee to the mountains"
Isn't it interesting that if you see the Novus Ordo as the abomination of desolation, then the words of Christ make perfect sense. He is telling you to follow Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre!
-------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't forget the words of Our Lady of LaSalette "Rome will lose the Faith, and become the seat of the Antichrist". Is it possible that in 2 Thessalonians, St. Paul was using allegory by calling it a Temple. Besides, what words would have St. Paul used to describe a physical Church building. At that point, weren't they still going to Mass in people's houses? A temple was all he knew.
I appreciate the constructive criticism.... and I completely understand what you are saying. But, I promise, there is much more to come.
Anyway... I should stop here ... but, thanks again. Ave Maria!
(and thanks for pointing out my error about April 3rd)!
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Post by maccabeanuprising on Aug 19, 2017 20:57:09 GMT -5
Oh, and as for the words of Our Lady at Fatima concerning a period of peace....that could be understood in so many ways. It could be taken to mean that She will restore the Traditional Latin Mass in every Church across the world, or it could mean so many other things. Could you elaborate more on why you think that contradicts the hypothesis that the Novus Ordo is the abomination of desolation?
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Post by wenceslav on Aug 19, 2017 21:41:18 GMT -5
Dear Maccabeanuprising
I find your analysis very interesting. I actually heard a similar thesis presented by my SSPX priest in a sermon. WRT the "abomination of desolation" mentioned by the prophet Daniel, it is also found in St. Matthew 24:15. Here is Haydock's Commentary on the passage from Gospel of St. Matthew.
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Post by maccabeanuprising on Aug 19, 2017 21:59:09 GMT -5
Dear wenceslav,
Thank you! To be honest, I have shied away from pointing out that Antichrist will abolish the Sacrifice of the Mass, because then there would be the great argument about the validity of Novus Ordo. But, if one were to understand the abomination of desolation as the Novus Ordo, then all the pieces come together and point to the fact that Antichrist did stop the Sacrifice of the Mass, because Novus Ordo is invalid (and probably so are the new ordination rites). Anyway, that's a huge statement, and I don't claim to know very much about sacramental theology. I'm just going by parallels here.
Remember, I hesitated pointing this out, but thank you wenceslav for making that comment !
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Aug 19, 2017 22:49:57 GMT -5
Dont worry no ones offended here lol
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Post by myrnam on Aug 20, 2017 8:38:17 GMT -5
Sounds like Antichrist is here!
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Post by mikemac on Aug 21, 2017 9:44:49 GMT -5
Oh, and as for the words of Our Lady at Fatima concerning a period of peace....that could be understood in so many ways. It could be taken to mean that She will restore the Traditional Latin Mass in every Church across the world, or it could mean so many other things. Could you elaborate more on why you think that contradicts the hypothesis that the Novus Ordo is the abomination of desolation? Okay, if the Novus Ordo is the "abomination of desolation" in Daniel 9:27 then that would mean that the Novus Ordo will last until the end of time, until the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, because Daniel 9:27 says that "the desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end." But I don't think the Novus Ordo would or could continue to exist after the triumph of the Immaculate Heart and through the period of peace. It wouldn't be a period of peace with the Novus Ordo, would it? Do you see the contradiction? Don't get me wrong, I think the videos in the other thread are fascinating.
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Post by myrnam on Aug 21, 2017 10:13:08 GMT -5
I wonder mikemac if those words "the Novus Ordo will last until the end of time" could they mean the end of this age, the time of this age. I thought but I could be wrong that when we see the triumph of the Immaculate Heart that would be the last age of the Church. I hope someone comes along that could elaborate on the seven ages of the church. Anyone!
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Post by mikemac on Aug 21, 2017 11:29:59 GMT -5
I wonder mikemac if those words "the Novus Ordo will last until the end of time" could they mean the end of this age, the time of this age. I thought but I could be wrong that when we see the triumph of the Immaculate Heart that would be the last age of the Church. I hope someone comes along that could elaborate on the seven ages of the church. Anyone! Here's three accounts of the seven ages of the church myrnam. All three believe we are near the end of the 5th period, the 6th period is the triumph or the period of peace ending with the coming of the antichrist and the 7th period is from the antichrist to the end. It looks like all three follow Venerable Father Bartholomew Holzhauser's prophecies. www.afterthewarningto2038.com/catholic-prophecy.phpexlaodicea.wordpress.com/2016/04/27/the-7-ages-of-the-church/www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2014/08/22/bishop-williamson-on-catholic-prophecy-and-the-seven-ages-of-the-catholic-church/It's not this quote that we are dealing with though; "the Novus Ordo will last until the end of time". It's this one from Daniel 9:27 "and the desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end." That does not sound like it is referring to the end of one of the seven ages. Especially with the word "consummation" being used.
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Post by maccabeanuprising on Aug 22, 2017 4:42:00 GMT -5
Hello! It's 5:30 AM, so I should make this short. But, a couple brief points: Pope Pius XII was made a bishop on the first day of the Apparitions at Fatima, May 13th, 1917. That ties him into Fatima. He did consecrate Russia to Our Lady's Immaculate Heart in 1958, granted that it wasn't with all the bishops of the world. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_XII_Consecration_to_the_Immaculate_Heart_of_MaryIt wasn't completely as Our Lady asked, but I wonder if Our Lady didn't accept it from the Holy Father, none the less. So often with the affairs between Heaven and Earth, things can have multiple fulfillments. For instance, it can be that in a certain sense, Russia could have been seen as consescrated by the Holy Father, but also in a larger sense, it was not done exactly like Our Lady asked. Therefore, the world DID see a relative period of peace after World War II. There was no major world war, and the threats of world war during the cold war period never manifested. That was a period of peace, on a general scale. As for the great ruler that will reign alongside the Angelic Shepherd (the Holy pope)...... I have a hypothesis about him. In the system of parallels between the Old Testament and Church history, Alexander the Great parallels with Franklin Roosevelt. - The Bible says Alexander ruled for 12 years - Franklin Roosevelt was President for 12 years - Alexander united the city states of Greece in a common force to defeat the Persians - Franklin Roosevelt formed the Allied Nations in a common force to defeat the Fascists (who are prefigured by the Persians) -Alexander the Great died suddenly - Franklin Roosevelt died suddenly - Alexander's conquered lands were split into 4 parts before his death - Conquered Germany was split into 4 parts before FDR died (Soviet Union, America, Britain and France) -2 of those 4 parts (Selecued and Ptolemaic) ended up fighting for a long time, battling back and forth -2 of those 4 parts (U.S and Soviet Union) ended up fighting for a long time (Cold War) -The Old Testament prefigurement of the Antichrist came from the Seleucid kingdom before the rise of Rome, which eventually conquered the Greeks - The New Testament actual Antichrist should therefore come from the Soviet Union (somewhere) before the rise of the European Union BUT.... here is the connection with the Great Monarch. In the Old Testament, the man who conquered the whole ancient world was Alexander the Great. He is paralleled by Franklin Roosevelt, as shown above. Isn't it interesting that the Great Monarch is supposed to - walk with a limp
- to conquer much, if not all of the world
- reign alongside the Angelic Shepherd
- give much aid and support to the Church
- conquer the Muslims
I find it very interesting that Franklin Roosevelt had Polio... and before he became paralyzed, he walked with a limp. His Allied Nations did conquer pretty much all of the world, including the Muslim lands. He reigned alongside of Pope Pius XII, who is called the "Angelic Shepherd" in the prophecies of St. Malachy. And finally, he did give much aid and support to the Church, because FDR drove the Nazi's out of Rome, and freed Europe (and the Church) from the threat of the Nazi's. I think that FDR is the great monarch. That would also fit with the idea that the Antichrist reigned from Vatican II, and the Novus Ordo is the abomination of desolation. Everything lines up like it should chronologically. The problem is that prophecy wasn't fulfilled in the way we expected it to be....... but.... shouldn't we expect that about prophecy fulfillment? ha ha! Ave Maria
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Post by maccabeanuprising on Aug 22, 2017 4:48:32 GMT -5
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Aug 22, 2017 6:59:51 GMT -5
Roosevelt is a stretch...he was nothing but a tinpot bankster supporting socialist. Father Coughlin had his number in the 30s. And he wasnt great in that he facillitated stalin in the murder of millions...involved us in the burning of Dresden alongside bloody Churchill. Established socialist America and the welfare state...undermined elections..The supreme court and allowed Pearl Harbor. Yeah Ill pass on the FDR theory.
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