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Post by tradne13838 on Jun 27, 2017 10:44:06 GMT -5
I was already leaning traditional when I was received via a NO parish. Mainly due to the Fisheaters website. The info side is top notch. I went through a phase of acting like a know-it-all, no doubt annoying others around me. This was because I was mostly self-catechized, only joining the rest of the RCIA class for the Q & A portion of the curriculum. This proved to be partly a blessing since I ended up avoiding a lot of the nonsense rampant in RCIA programs.
Over the years I moved along the spectrum to SSPX, wavering between that and Sedevacantism until I realized that I was never going to find a concrete answer when people far more knowledgeable than myself were struggling to find the 100% certain solution. This taught me to give others the benefit of the doubt about having a different reaction to the Crisis. I can think of people from each position that I know personally to be good Catholics striving to follow the Faith as best they can.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jun 27, 2017 18:02:51 GMT -5
I was already leaning traditional when I was received via a NO parish. Mainly due to the Fisheaters website. The info side is top notch. I went through a phase of acting like a know-it-all, no doubt annoying others around me. This was because I was mostly self-catechized, only joining the rest of the RCIA class for the Q & A portion of the curriculum. This proved to be partly a blessing since I ended up avoiding a lot of the nonsense rampant in RCIA programs. Over the years I moved along the spectrum to SSPX, wavering between that and Sedevacantism until I realized that I was never going to find a concrete answer when people far more knowledgeable than myself were struggling to find the 100% certain solution. This taught me to give others the benefit of the doubt about having a different reaction to the Crisis. I can think of people from each position that I know personally to be good Catholics striving to follow the Faith as best they can. Which is the official position of this forum tradcath.proboards.com/thread/132/trad-catholic-groups-warned
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jun 27, 2017 23:25:07 GMT -5
I was raised in a strict family that lacked charity. My mom was NO and my dad was never baptized. My dad wanted a small family and my mom, refusing to use birth control and failing at NFP suffered sadness her entire marriage. Every child that came to them was a burden. We floundered around, knowing something was wrong with the NO but not knowing about the TLM. Each of my siblings rebelled or got involved in bad crowds once out of the house and usually ended up married after a baby was made. I went along with whatever crowd I was around, never standing for anything because I was never really taught anything to stand for. After years of this I was tired with my life. I realized I didn't like the lifestyle of the friends I had and I broke off contact with almost all of them my final year of college. I had always prayed the rosary and when I moved to complete my internship I found the Mass I go to now. I had just started dating a guy at that time and I was getting my life in order and if he wanted join me he was welcome but otherwise we would have to part ways. He started asking our priest questions and reading the catechism and less than a year later we were married. Now I have in laws that are moderately lax NO Catholics or Protestants but the Catholics are very charitable and always try to say something good about people. They have actually been a good influence on me and my views of life. I thank my mom for making us always say the Rosary and doing her best, but I feel bad for her because she is sad always and she has a hard time thinking anything good of anyone. I am thankful for the Sacraments when I can get to them.
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Post by mikemac on Jun 27, 2017 23:32:28 GMT -5
My mother converted to the Catholic Faith from the United Church when she married dad. I was born in 1952, so I was born into the Traditional Church. One of the first things that I remember my mother telling me was that Mary is also my mother. For some reason that stood out in my memory. My older brother and myself were altar boys; I don't think I was a very good one though. On Sunday nights we'd all watch the Bishop Fulton Sheen show on the black and white TV. As a kid I remember going to Rosary rallies and praying for the consecration of Russia. I was still going to Mass when the Novus Ordo came about. I remember the wreckovation of St Peter's Basilica in Peterborough, Ontario, where I was Baptized. It used to have a gorgeous high altar. It was replaced by a table and kind of an ugly mural on the back wall. The Tabernacle was also moved to the chapel on the right to be replaced by the bishop's chair.
Shortly after this I fell away from going to Mass. Not to look for something else; I was just having too much fun partying and the like. I think I always had it in the back of my mind that I would return to the Church. That didn't happen for about 25 years. In 1993 I was in a disabling work related accident. I was miserable I was hurting so much. I couldn't have a decent conversation without getting angry. Something had to change. I started to pray but it took me a bit to get up the courage to go to Confession. But when I did it was like night and day. What a relief when the priest said "your sins are forgiven". That was a Novus Ordo priest too, being about 1996 long before Pope Benedict XVI's Summorum Pontificum. It seemed like I started to feel calmer right after going to Confession and starting to go to Mass regularly. Things didn't bother me as much. I could have a decent conversation without getting angry. I even started to get a sense of humour back.
Shortly after this I received an issue of the Fatima Crusader, a quarterly published by Father Gruner's (RIP) Fatima Center. I don't even know why I received that first issue of the Fatima Crusader. I asked my aunt and a couple of other people whether they had given my name and address to the Fatima Center, but they all said no. I don't remember if I requested to have the information from the Fatima Center sent to me or if it just kept coming after the first one. I volunteered a bit for the Fatima Center by distributing Rosaries, prayer cards and other literature. Besides reading about the Fatima story in the Crusader there were also articles on the Traditional Latin Mass. I guess you could say that was the first spark.
I was saying the Rosary every day anyway so I looked for a Rosary group on an online audio chat network. There were a couple of Rosary groups but the one I stuck with the most was called Our Lady of Fatima Rosary group. After praying with them every day for a while we started to get to know each other. There wasn't a lot of members but most of the regulars attended an SSPX chapel and one regular lady attended an independent chapel in Washington State. This got into talk about whether I went to a Novus Ordo Mass or a TLM. I searched the web to see if I could find a TLM close enough to drive to, but the closest was St. Lawrence in Scarborough. Way too far for me.
I was still going to the Novus Ordo Mass when Summorum Pontificum came out. There was no notice in the bulletin that there was now a TLM in the diocese. I just happened to see a small note that someone had left on the board going into the NO church. Every last Sunday of the month the TLM was being offered by Father Devereaux at St Thomas Moore Church in Millbrook. That was just outside of Peterborough so I started to attend on the last Sunday of each month. A couple of years later Father Devereaux was moved to Our Lady of the Assumption Church on the other side of Peterborough, and the bishop allowed him to offer the TLM on the first and last Sundays of the month. Father Devereaux had plans for Assumption; a high altar, kneeling rails and the old style Confessional. We were so proud of that little church, it was gorgeous and I got the privilege to contribute to the cost.
Just after everything was installed at Our Lady of the Assumption the bishop did a major shuffle of the priests of the diocese. Father Devereaux also worked in the chancery office with access to the bishop so he had a chance to request where he would be moved to. Again Father Devereaux had a plan. He requested Our Lady of Mount Carmel in Hastings, Ontario, 25 minutes east of Peterborough. Shortly after Father Devereaux moved to Hastings Father Pilon from St. Mary's in Campbellford, just a 15 minute drive from Hastings was allowed to offer the TLM on every other Sunday besides the first and last Sunday's of the month. So now we have access to the TLM on every Sunday. And I now live in Hastings just around the corner from Our Lady of Mount Carmel.
Since moving to Hastings Father Devereaux has added two side altars and a kneeling rail to Our Lady of Mount Carmel. It's looking nice and again I got the privilege to contribute. And also just recently Father Pilon has added a beautiful high altar and two side altars to St. Mary's in Campbellford. And I was able to contribute. Also Father Devereaux and Father Pilon received permission from Rome (our last bishop's idea) to start a new order, the Servants of the Holy Name of Jesus (SSNJ). They have a couple of brothers that have joined the order. For this reason Father Devereaux does not expect to be moved to a different parish again. Our TLM communities are small so if you are ever in the area don't hesitate to drop in.
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jun 28, 2017 8:03:52 GMT -5
Hi Jen. My husband was a park naturalist in the Georgia Okeefenokee Swamp when we first met. And we were married in the Lutheran church (ELCA) just because I had gig there playing organ on Sundays and I liked the pastor. I must have read this book 50 times to my kids. It's a good one.
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Post by kim on Jun 28, 2017 8:15:06 GMT -5
Hi Jen. My husband was a park naturalist in the Georgia Okeefenokee Swamp when we first met. And we were married in the Lutheran church (ELCA) just because I had gig there playing organ on Sundays and I liked the pastor. I must have read this book 50 times to my kids. It's a good one. LOL! I married a real manly dude. He even scuba dove with the gators in the swamp. Gator is very tasty!!
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Post by myrnam on Jun 28, 2017 8:32:43 GMT -5
Reading all these stories reminds me of that Bible verse: "Seek and you shall find."
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Post by jen51 on Jun 28, 2017 12:45:34 GMT -5
Reading all these stories reminds me of that Bible verse: "Seek and you shall find." I was just thinking the same when I was reading mikemacs story, Myrna.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jun 29, 2017 5:09:29 GMT -5
Or careful what you wish for? Im just kidding everyone...Ill put my story down...sometime...if you want a amnesia cure.
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Post by William Pius Robert Winslow on Jun 29, 2017 12:43:49 GMT -5
I came from an Atheist background, or more precisely, indifferentist. But I just happened to be an Atheist/indifferentist anyway.
I began to question what I was taught in the school for years, and finally, I was baptized on Easter, 2015 in my college chapel. But during my RCIA course, I was already questioning the modernist doctrines, and this was precisely the reason why I chose Pius as my Baptism name, in honor of Pope Saint Pius V and Pope Saint Pius X, two saintly Popes who were vehemently against all heresies.
Shortly after my Baptism, I began to go to "Latin Mass (Indult)". (Note: when I say "Latin Mass", I normally mean "Indult". For a true Mass, I usually say "Tridentine Mass".) I began to see their fake beauty when I heard from the "Priest" told me that Novus Ordo was totally fine to the souls. Then I began to look for SSPX, and found a way to go there frequently.
But then, I heard about Sedevacantism. I was very Sede-phobic at the beginning, just as most Sedevacantists were at the beginning. But I started to realize that my Sede-phobia was utterly emotional. I began to look at the evidence, including but far from being limited to the work of Saint Robert Bellarmine, the Doctor of the Church who became my Confirmation Saint later.
After reviewing De Romano Pontifice as well as several treatises and manuals, such as Sacrae Theologiae Summa, Tractatus Dogmatici, De Ecclesia Christi, etc, I was finally convinced by Sedevacantism.
(Note: I do not subscribe to the una cum theory by Father Cekada, and I still go to Mass offered by SSPX, since the Priest there is valid. But I am definitely open to this theory, and may be convinced in the future, though I do not see how that can be true now.)
God bless you all,
G. P. R. W.
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Post by carloscamejo on Jun 29, 2017 23:09:09 GMT -5
Grew up very lapsed Catholic, drifted around and went to a Protestant/Evangelical thing in high school, that's where I finally understood religion for the first time and then I went to the Novus Ordo. That lasted... not very long.
Then college #1 where I met practicing Catholics for the first time! (not a joke; 'Catholic' countries are awful at any type of religious praxis)
I became interested in this because the mainstream church is a mess and something in my head ticked 'this... was not what people were doing 2,000 years ago, this feels invented, it feels man-made'. So I started researching.
Didn't start going in person until about 2 years ago when I moved and here I am. I have major issues with both sedevacantism and R&R, so my label is just "Trad Catholic".
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jun 30, 2017 4:47:42 GMT -5
Sedevacantist is not a noun..but an adjective. I dont use sede as a label. Im Catholic.
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Post by myrnam on Jun 30, 2017 9:36:31 GMT -5
I also hope and pray that Catholics could and would stop putting themselves into categories but I think that is a consequence of having no True Pope to unite us. If we adhere to all the teachings of the Church and are keeping the Faith, we are all Catholic, yes, in the eyes of God we are Catholic. However many times in order to explain our position since "When the Shepherd has been struck the sheep will scatter" has happened with VII. We are scattered in the sense that we search for the saving Sacraments of the Church, where is the Church?
Matthew 24;23 "Then if anyone says to you, 'Behold here is the Christ,' or, 'There he is,' do not believe it. For false Christ and false prophets will arise, and will show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray."
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Luis Ladaria the Universalist as CDF head? Next, they can pick Rabbi Skorka to head a dicastery. =(
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Post by 1timothy6 on Jul 5, 2017 2:05:16 GMT -5
😲😲😲!!! The Dimonds dig up some very good stuff---I am impressed with them though of course I reject them overall because of their denial of baptism of blood and desire. You shouldnt be impressed with them as they are the westboro baptist church of the trad groups. Usurpers and madmen. They dont dig up anything that cant be found elsewhere from more reputable people. They are cruel judgmental and persecute good Catholics. Oh and frauds. Very true, sir. The Dimond Brothers have been caught running a money scam more than once. They would probably consider Father Leonard Feeney a flaming liberal. Theirs is a subtle seduction, mixing truth with exaggeration and error, much like the "Spirit of Vatican II" buffoons. As for my own story, I was a "cradle Catholic" (you could call me a "conservative") until the phenomenon known as John Paul II's heresies became too big to ignore. Reading the late Romano Amerio's "Iota Unum" was my "Damascus moment". I'm now a happy Traditional Catholic and sedeprivationist. =)
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