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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jun 10, 2017 23:02:21 GMT -5
"The Burning Tigris" by Balakian is a disturbing but eye-opening book about the Armenian genocide. I'm only into the first half of this book and so far I like it, except that the author extols the fact that the genocide brought about a new policy of foreign interventionism. Up to that point the US had been more hesitant to interfere/intervene for "crimes against humanity." I see the "isolationist" policy as better, for as the book shows, after the UK and Russia began to get involved, things got worse for the Armenians.
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jun 10, 2017 23:11:10 GMT -5
The rawanden genocide is very disturbing...there was a book by a UN official...ill get back to...a great read. Have you ever head of the book Left to Tell by Immaculee Ilabagiza? If not, it is a must read! She lived through the Rwandan genocide, and her book is one of the most moving autobiographies stories which I have ever read. People at my chapel have been passing copies of it around after the death of King Kigeli... Wow! What an eye opener it is... I just lent one of my copies to my best friend at our chapel. Rita, I don't mean to let you down but I feel parts of this book had to have been fabricated. A few things that didn't make sense: 1. when she corresponds with her surviving brother they talk as though the other family members are still living. 2. They were supposedly in the bathroom (7 women/girls) for three months before the maid requests to clean it? 3. The son of the owner of the house was in the bedroom which the bathroom adjoined, asking his father if he has hidden the Tutsis and doesn't notice or think it odd that a dresser is placed in front of the bathroom door? 4. The picture showing the dresser that supposedly covered the door to the bathroom is not actually tall enough to cover it. When the Interahamwe searched the house so many times they should have noticed the top of a door showing behind the dresser. 5. The family is allegedly devout Catholics but the Mother goes to a fortune teller to learn that three months of storms are coming and most of the people are going to be killed. I thought it was interesting but I can't recommend others to read it just because some things didn't add up.
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jun 10, 2017 23:19:52 GMT -5
Very captivating book! The only fault I found was that Dallaire accuses the UN of being sloppy, incompetent, mismanaging, etc, while at the same time supporting its involvement and future actions. My opinion is that they were all for the killing. They knew the Hutus had arms, knew the extermination was planned, only saved the "white" diplomats when the time came, couldn't intervene to stop the killing until, oh, horror of horrors, the Patriotic Army looks to be winning!!!. We'd better get in there to "save democracy." From the outside looking in, everything the UN did aided and abetted the murderous illegal "government" that took over and hindered the RPF.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jun 11, 2017 5:54:39 GMT -5
I agree the very premise of UN involvement isnt critizized. What I found interesting was Delairs discussion about the literal presence of an intelligent malevolent evil. The title if the book comes from his meeting with the warlord. If I get time Ill post the relevant Passage.
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Post by micah1199 on Jun 11, 2017 8:09:29 GMT -5
It will be interesting on the last day to watch the history of the world and how it plays Out according to Christ's plan. Hopefully, we will all be on the right side. I heard in a sermon that the final judgement will take centuries as each person is brought before Christ's tribunal.
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Post by RitaMarita on Jun 12, 2017 18:13:05 GMT -5
Have you ever head of the book Left to Tell by Immaculee Ilabagiza? If not, it is a must read! She lived through the Rwandan genocide, and her book is one of the most moving autobiographies stories which I have ever read. People at my chapel have been passing copies of it around after the death of King Kigeli... Wow! What an eye opener it is... I just lent one of my copies to my best friend at our chapel. Rita, I don't mean to let you down but I feel parts of this book had to have been fabricated. A few things that didn't make sense: 1. when she corresponds with her surviving brother they talk as though the other family members are still living. 2. They were supposedly in the bathroom (7 women/girls) for three months before the maid requests to clean it? 3. The son of the owner of the house was in the bedroom which the bathroom adjoined, asking his father if he has hidden the Tutsis and doesn't notice or think it odd that a dresser is placed in front of the bathroom door? 4. The picture showing the dresser that supposedly covered the door to the bathroom is not actually tall enough to cover it. When the Interahamwe searched the house so many times they should have noticed the top of a door showing behind the dresser. 5. The family is allegedly devout Catholics but the Mother goes to a fortune teller to learn that three months of storms are coming and most of the people are going to be killed. I thought it was interesting but I can't recommend others to read it just because some things didn't add up. Interesting points... I merely suggested it as an eye opener to those who might not know anything of the Rwandan Genocide. I never heard of it until last fall myself.
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Post by Lynne on Jun 13, 2017 11:29:31 GMT -5
The rawanden genocide is very disturbing...there was a book by a UN official...ill get back to...a great read. Have you ever head of the book Left to Tell by Immaculee Ilabagiza? If not, it is a must read! She lived through the Rwandan genocide, and her book is one of the most moving autobiographies stories which I have ever read. People at my chapel have been passing copies of it around after the death of King Kigeli... Wow! What an eye opener it is... I just lent one of my copies to my best friend at our chapel. She wrote another book about the Marian apparition that happened at Kiehbo. Unfortunately, the bishop approved of it, at least the initial part of it. It was strange... Several women decided to meet online to discuss it and all of us were underwhelmed. I'll see if I can find some notes on it.
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Post by mariac on Jun 13, 2017 11:47:30 GMT -5
The rawanden genocide is very disturbing...there was a book by a UN official...ill get back to...a great read. Have you ever head of the book Left to Tell by Immaculee Ilabagiza? If not, it is a must read! She lived through the Rwandan genocide, and her book is one of the most moving autobiographies stories which I have ever read. People at my chapel have been passing copies of it around after the death of King Kigeli... Wow! What an eye opener it is... I just lent one of my copies to my best friend at our chapel. I've heard her speak - very moving story.
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Post by RitaMarita on Jun 15, 2017 14:58:32 GMT -5
Have you ever head of the book Left to Tell by Immaculee Ilabagiza? If not, it is a must read! She lived through the Rwandan genocide, and her book is one of the most moving autobiographies stories which I have ever read. People at my chapel have been passing copies of it around after the death of King Kigeli... Wow! What an eye opener it is... I just lent one of my copies to my best friend at our chapel. She wrote another book about the Marian apparition that happened at Kiehbo. Unfortunately, the bishop approved of it, at least the initial part of it. It was strange... Several women decided to meet online to discuss it and all of us were underwhelmed. I'll see if I can find some notes on it. Interesting... Never heard of the Marian apparition, but if it was approved after Vatican II I wouldn't really trust it anyhow...
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jun 15, 2017 18:17:00 GMT -5
Have you ever head of the book Left to Tell by Immaculee Ilabagiza? If not, it is a must read! She lived through the Rwandan genocide, and her book is one of the most moving autobiographies stories which I have ever read. People at my chapel have been passing copies of it around after the death of King Kigeli... Wow! What an eye opener it is... I just lent one of my copies to my best friend at our chapel. She wrote another book about the Marian apparition that happened at Kiehbo. Unfortunately, the bishop approved of it, at least the initial part of it. It was strange... Several women decided to meet online to discuss it and all of us were underwhelmed. I'll see if I can find some notes on it. I've never heard of them....but I'll have to look them up now.
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Post by mikemac on Jun 28, 2017 14:21:03 GMT -5
I watched a documentary about this on CBC where Roméo Dallaire was interviewed. He made it sound like he felt double crossed when the Belgian UN troops upped and left. He knew the Tutsis and even his troops were in trouble then. But nobody was listening to him. I think I can remember him putting some blame on Bill Clinton. Dallaire was quite disturbed about it all, even having bouts of depression.
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Post by mikemac on Jun 28, 2017 14:22:57 GMT -5
The worst part of the Armenian Genocide is that the Turks to this day still try to deny it.
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