recusant
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Post by recusant on Aug 27, 2016 7:47:06 GMT -5
Can anyone give me hard evidence of any anti-una cum priest who has refused the Holy Eucharist to the faithful?
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Post by Pacelli on Aug 27, 2016 13:54:24 GMT -5
Can anyone give me hard evidence of any anti-una cum priest who has refused the Holy Eucharist to the faithful? Below is the November 8, 2009 public statement of Dr. Thomas Droleskey, that has remained unchallenged:
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Post by recusant on Aug 27, 2016 17:45:18 GMT -5
This is not good at all. Frankly I really don't care too much if traditional clergy hold these opinions. What really bothers me is when they force the laity to make choices in matters that haven't been settled by the church.
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Post by heinrich on Aug 28, 2016 21:18:25 GMT -5
Why can't all sedes get along?
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Post by Damaged Goods on Aug 28, 2016 22:27:51 GMT -5
Why can't all sedes get along? We all should, for the older people and the kids.
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Post by Clotilde on Aug 28, 2016 22:36:06 GMT -5
Why can't all sedes get along? 90% of us do. In any group of people, some people are unlikeable. Most of us get along in person in spite of our differences.
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Post by heinrich on Aug 29, 2016 6:04:10 GMT -5
I don't mean collegiality. In Cincinnati, for example, to my knowledge, four sedevacantist orders exist. And all deny one another's validity, I.e. will deny Communion to each other's members. Again, to my knowledge. Of course, I will concede if someone with first Hand knowledge can correct me.
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Aug 29, 2016 19:05:57 GMT -5
I don't mean collegiality. In Cincinnati, for example, to my knowledge, four sedevacantist orders exist. And all deny one another's validity, I.e. will deny Communion to each other's members. Again, to my knowledge. Of course, I will concede if someone with first Hand knowledge can correct me. I think they feel that such things are worth arguing about. In this case I agree with them; religion is worth arguing about.
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Post by heinrich on Aug 29, 2016 19:13:21 GMT -5
I don't mean collegiality. In Cincinnati, for example, to my knowledge, four sedevacantist orders exist. And all deny one another's validity, I.e. will deny Communion to each other's members. Again, to my knowledge. Of course, I will concede if someone with first Hand knowledge can correct me. I think they feel that such things are worth arguing about. In this case I agree with them; religion is worth arguing about. That is what St. Thomas Aquinas did in Paris with other theologians. This is a handful priests who take it upon themselves to say that they are the real Catholics while the others are imposters. Who decided who is right?
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Aug 29, 2016 19:45:05 GMT -5
which is Catholics doing exactly what Jesus commanded us not to do.
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Post by Pacelli on Aug 29, 2016 20:13:59 GMT -5
I don't mean collegiality. In Cincinnati, for example, to my knowledge, four sedevacantist orders exist. And all deny one another's validity, I.e. will deny Communion to each other's members. Again, to my knowledge. Of course, I will concede if someone with first Hand knowledge can correct me. I think they feel that such things are worth arguing about. In this case I agree with them; religion is worth arguing about. The trouble is that separating communion with other Catholics goes beyond arguing, and is a schismatic act.
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Post by Clotilde on Aug 29, 2016 21:45:20 GMT -5
I don't mean collegiality. In Cincinnati, for example, to my knowledge, four sedevacantist orders exist. And all deny one another's validity, I.e. will deny Communion to each other's members. Again, to my knowledge. Of course, I will concede if someone with first Hand knowledge can correct me. The two issues are the Slupski/Ramolla issues but they don't deny Communion to any other groups but I think some still mistrust this situation. I don't know the facts myself and I'm unlikely to go there for other reasons so I've never found out much. The other is the SSPV, who are the only group that thinks others (Thuc lineage) are invalid and yes they do deny Communion. Other than that, between the four factions there isn't much of a problem except for personality/emotional conflicts between some laity and some priests. The people get along way better than they get credit for on the Internet.
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Aug 30, 2016 6:36:39 GMT -5
I don't mean collegiality. In Cincinnati, for example, to my knowledge, four sedevacantist orders exist. And all deny one another's validity, I.e. will deny Communion to each other's members. Again, to my knowledge. Of course, I will concede if someone with first Hand knowledge can correct me. The two issues are the Slupski/Ramolla issues but they don't deny Communion to any other groups but I think some still mistrust this situation. I don't know the facts myself and I'm unlikely to go there for other reasons so I've never found out much. The other is the SSPV, who are the only group that thinks others (Thuc lineage) are invalid and yes they do deny Communion. Other than that, between the four factions there isn't much of a problem except for personality/emotional conflicts between some laity and some priests. The people get along way better than they get credit for on the Internet. Slupski's in Cincinnati, too?!
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Aug 30, 2016 7:51:48 GMT -5
This makes me think of a different question I used to ponder but never really had an answer for:
If a trad priest knew that certain chapel members were going to the NO service on some Sundays and receiving communion there can and should he deny them Holy Communion on the Sundays they came to "his" chapel?
(If this should be in a different thread please change it.)
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Aug 30, 2016 8:19:16 GMT -5
This makes me think of a different question I used to ponder but never really had an answer for: If a trad priest knew that certain chapel members were going to the NO service on some Sundays and receiving communion there can and should he deny them Holy Communion on the Sundays they came to "his" chapel? (If this should be in a different thread please change it.) I would say no...
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