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Post by Didymus on Mar 14, 2023 10:26:17 GMT -5
Maybe someone can contribute some interesting point from this interview. Derksen is known, and personally I only know Verrecchio from his interview with John Lane.
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Post by Didymus on Mar 14, 2023 10:31:43 GMT -5
Maybe Voxx would one day be great if you interviewed Mario Derksen and Louie Verecchio addressing the topics covered in this forum, it would be interesting to hear.
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Post by John Lewis on Mar 14, 2023 14:07:45 GMT -5
Mario's opinions on topics of disagreement (NUC etc) are quite well known, but Louie hasn't spoken publicly on them before and I suspect he would side with Mr Lane. The host of the Catholic Family Podcast is pro-NUC (moderate position - not a mortal sin) so I would be pleased if they would host a proper debate on the topic, especially following Pacelli's recent findings on Fr Cekada's Grain Of Incense article.
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Post by Didymus on Mar 14, 2023 15:34:22 GMT -5
Mario's opinions on topics of disagreement (NUC etc) are quite well known, but Louie hasn't spoken publicly on them before and I suspect he would side with Mr Lane. The host of the Catholic Family Podcast is pro-NUC (moderate position - not a mortal sin) so I would be pleased if they would host a proper debate on the topic, especially following Pacelli's recent findings on Fr Cekada's Grain Of Incense article. If the interviewer's name is Kevin, I know it's CMRI but all the "new generation" have a kind of respect for Bishop Sanborn and have gotten carried away with these errors, just because of the "sedevacantist unit" issue, it would be interesting by Louie, precisely because he has contact with John Lane. It would be interesting
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Mar 14, 2023 17:59:31 GMT -5
Popes are not the Rule of Faith but Apostolic Tradition is the Rule of Faith...the Papacy falling into that category not individual " Popes" this is a mistake I think many crisis catholics fall into. When you consider the Popes infallble charism fall to the role of PROTECTOR of the Rule of faith...not its locus...first off NUC anathmas fall most immediately. If I were ever to debate a prominent NUC this would be my first attack
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Post by Didymus on Mar 14, 2023 18:18:25 GMT -5
Here is the complete video.
Father Oswald and Father Benedict Hughes were also going to be there, I talked to him when I asked him about being able to go to the FSSPX and he freely told me " you have right to go for the sacraments" is one of the few priests, I think they continue to support this, even within the CMRI I think there are many who unfortunately support NUC.
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Post by John Lewis on Mar 16, 2023 3:36:54 GMT -5
Popes are not the Rule of Faith but Apostolic Tradition is the Rule of Faith...the Papacy falling into that category not individual " Popes" this is a mistake I think many crisis catholics fall into. When you consider the Popes infallble charism fall to the role of PROTECTOR of the Rule of faith...not its locus...first off NUC anathmas fall most immediately. If I were ever to debate a prominent NUC this would be my first attack Why not just expose the glaring holes in Fr Cekada's arguments?
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Mar 16, 2023 4:05:36 GMT -5
Popes are not the Rule of Faith but Apostolic Tradition is the Rule of Faith...the Papacy falling into that category not individual " Popes" this is a mistake I think many crisis catholics fall into. When you consider the Popes infallble charism fall to the role of PROTECTOR of the Rule of faith...not its locus...first off NUC anathmas fall most immediately. If I were ever to debate a prominent NUC this would be my first attack Why not just expose the glaring holes in Fr Cekada's arguments? because I think the NUC at its core is putting the man who is Pope into a higher status than he has. And Ive never actually heard any NUCs answer to this. The other" holes" apparently they can rationalize.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Mar 16, 2023 4:07:09 GMT -5
Maybe Voxx would one day be great if you interviewed Mario Derksen and Louie Verecchio addressing the topics covered in this forum, it would be interesting to hear. Do you have contact info
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Post by Pacelli on Mar 16, 2023 9:11:17 GMT -5
If we were living in normal times, with a certain Pope, then obviously the naming of a false pope, who is leading a known and condemned sect would indicate that one could not assist at a mass there, as it would be participating in worship with a schismatic or heretical sect, even if the priest were valid and an approved rite were used.
The Pope is the principe of unity in the Church, he is the living Apostle, and it is being in union with him that is an easy indicator of who is Catholic and who is not. If one stumbles across an Orthodox Church, and mistakes it for a Catholic Church, he will easily know he made a mistake when he hears the name of false patriarch being prayed for and/or the false bishop, and there is no pope being prayed for. He then needs to get out of that place as fast as he can.
The NUC's have confused all of this, and are confusing principles that one would adhere to during times of a certain pope, with our present situation. They have made a theological mess and Catholics who have uncritically believed their teachings have been spiritually harmed.
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Post by Didymus on Mar 16, 2023 10:59:49 GMT -5
Maybe Voxx would one day be great if you interviewed Mario Derksen and Louie Verecchio addressing the topics covered in this forum, it would be interesting to hear. Do you have contact info I don't have his Voxx contacts sorry, Louie posted an email on John lane's videos SedeQandA@akaCatholic.com, maybe you can write there. Mario Derksen I don't know his contact either. Maybe you could ask Kevin Davis directly on facebook about the contact of these people, I had correspondence with him many years ago and he always responds.
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