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Post by nonsequitur on Dec 19, 2022 15:52:24 GMT -5
Returned to Tradition in 1981. Family in every camp, so I guess you could say I'm ecumenical.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Dec 19, 2022 18:11:48 GMT -5
Well this is your one stop shop so to speak...welcome any questions feel free to pm me or the staff
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2022 2:32:35 GMT -5
Welcome. This forum is a good place to be. So far I've seen it put the faith before everything else which is how Catholic forums should be.
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Post by RitaMarita on Dec 26, 2022 8:22:25 GMT -5
Returned to Tradition in 1981. Family in every camp, so I guess you could say I'm ecumenical. Welcome to the club! I don't have family in every camp but I do have friends in every camp... And none of my family are traditional Catholics... Are your family in different traditional Catholic camps or completely different religion camps? Welcome to the forum! It is one of the friendliest traditional Catholic Forums out there!
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Post by nonsequitur on Dec 26, 2022 21:20:09 GMT -5
Independent sedevacanist, SSPX, SSG, SSPV, and novus ordo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2022 21:47:58 GMT -5
Independent sedevacantist, SSPX, SSG, SSPV, and novus ordo. That's quite a few camps, but there's also the CMRI, RCI, IMBC et al. Hopefully you'll find some opportunities to raise some of the issues that have arisen with their positions.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Dec 27, 2022 9:15:01 GMT -5
Independent sedevacanist, SSPX, SSG, SSPV, and novus ordo. Are theyre Byzantine rite Churches near you?
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Post by nonsequitur on Dec 27, 2022 10:55:31 GMT -5
I'm not sure. How should I search for a legitimate Byzantine right Church?
A little background, my best friend as a child father was a Orthodox priest. He was from Yugoslavia and very anti-communist. He tried to convince my dad in 1978 that John Paul II was a communist. We were Novus ordo at the time and so I got to go to a schismatic orthodox Mass.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2022 14:54:42 GMT -5
I'm not sure. How should I search for a legitimate Byzantine right Church? A little background, my best friend as a child father was a Orthodox priest. He was from Yugoslavia and very anti-communist. He tried to convince my dad in 1978 that John Paul II was a communist. We were Novus ordo at the time and so I got to go to a schismatic orthodox Mass. Where are you going now?
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Post by Pacelli on Dec 27, 2022 17:56:13 GMT -5
I'm not sure. How should I search for a legitimate Byzantine right Church? A little background, my best friend as a child father was a Orthodox priest. He was from Yugoslavia and very anti-communist. He tried to convince my dad in 1978 that John Paul II was a communist. We were Novus ordo at the time and so I got to go to a schismatic orthodox Mass. Hello nonsequitor, The first thing is to make sure that the priest is Catholic and not a schismatic orthodox. The next thing is to do a test attendance at the Divine Liturgy, looking for things that may make it clear whether the priest is truly a Catholic or not. For example, if you see altar girls, run away! You may also want to check in your area to see if there is an SSPX chapel, especially if you need instruction in your Faith or if you need conditional confirmation.
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Post by nonsequitur on Dec 27, 2022 18:47:19 GMT -5
I've attended ex SSPX priests chapels since 1982.
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Post by Pacelli on Dec 27, 2022 19:06:18 GMT -5
I've attended ex SSPX priests chapels since 1982. There are 3 remaining bishops of SSPX, all consecrated by .Archbishop Lefebvre. They are all valid. The fourth is the same, Richard Williamson, a valid bishop. If you need conditional confirmation go to any of them. Regarding former SSPX: it's up to you, but I do not recommend Donald Sanborn, the SSPV, Bishop Dolan or his priests. There are serious problems with these men/groups, and I cannot recommend them to you.
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Post by nonsequitur on Dec 27, 2022 20:55:06 GMT -5
Thanks for your input. I know Bishop Sanborn and I believe he is sincere. I would have liked to hear +Sanborn discuss Vatican ll with the late Fr. Gregory Hesse. Twice I traveled to Europe with priests, so I understand about different charisms. My takeaway was Charity trumps intellectual respect.
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Post by RitaMarita on Jan 4, 2023 7:08:24 GMT -5
Thanks for your input. [br Charity trumps intellectual respect. Well said! If only more traditional Catholics understood this... Though I don't agree with Bishop Sanborn about everything, I wouldn't hesitate recommending his locations for attending Mass...just as I don't agree with everything the CMRI and other valid non-heretical SSPX priests say but wouldn't hesitate recommending their Mass locations. None of them have normal jurisdiction but most of them are trying to do their best.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2023 12:26:06 GMT -5
Well said! If only more traditional Catholics understood this... Though I don't agree with Bishop Sanborn about everything, I wouldn't hesitate recommending his locations for attending Mass...just as I don't agree with everything the CMRI and other valid non-heretical SSPX priests say but wouldn't hesitate recommending their Mass locations. None of them have normal jurisdiction but most of them are trying to do their best. Charity requires living in truth. If someone is educated about the error of these groups, understands Catholic teaching and will not be swayed by false arguments but remain in communion with other Catholics out of charity then they are able to attend such Mass centres. But the errors they espouse are dangerous to the Faith itself and caution is required. I couldn't unhesitatingly recommend any of these groups.
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