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Post by Clotilde on Jun 12, 2017 15:30:12 GMT -5
Veronica I appreciate your zeal and faith. But at this point imo only God can fix this. Practically what can you do...they are unhinged and disconected from the vine. They are dead wood and these parasites fungi and termites always appear around dead wood. Our cause is Just but our strength is only from God. The reason the trads are infighting is that THEY think they have the answer to the crisis. Voxx - I know only God can fix this crisis, but God does use men. (Didn't men create this crisis to begin with)?? I thought the Trads were infighting because each group saw themselves as being the one and only true group and that everyone not associated with their particular group were castaways or doomed?? I personally don't see any Trad group having an answer to this crisis. They seem to me to be compounding the issues surrounding the crisis with all the infighting!! (Just my 2 cents). All we can do is to be good to our fellow Catholic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 16:17:56 GMT -5
Voxx - I know only God can fix this crisis, but God does use men. (Didn't men create this crisis to begin with)?? I thought the Trads were infighting because each group saw themselves as being the one and only true group and that everyone not associated with their particular group were castaways or doomed?? I personally don't see any Trad group having an answer to this crisis. They seem to me to be compounding the issues surrounding the crisis with all the infighting!! (Just my 2 cents). All we can do is to be good to our fellow Catholic. People identifying themselves as Catholic are having Homosexual Pride events, selling Homosexual Pride T Shirts after Novus Ordo Masses and being sponsored by a Satanic Witches Coven. All this is being done in the Catholic name and with the knowledge and permission of the Archbishop of Baltimore. All I am saying is these Vatican II Novus Ordoite Catholics need exposed for what they are NOT and that is Catholic. They are anti-Catholic in my opinion and in need of protest. The Traditionalists don't seem to protest anything much except other Traditionalist groups. The liberals on the other hand are always protesting and seem to know how to unite and draw attention to their causes.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jun 12, 2017 18:42:51 GMT -5
Well go publically protest...where is it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 21:16:37 GMT -5
Well go publically protest...where is it? This abomination taking place in the Diocese of Baltimore is from: St. Matthews Roman Catholic Church 5401 Loch Raven Blvd. Baltimore, MD 21239 If anyone would care to write to the Archbishop of Baltimore in protest of these abominations taking place his address is: Archbishop William E. Lori 320 Cathedral St. Baltimore, Md 21201
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Post by Pacelli on Jun 12, 2017 21:29:22 GMT -5
Well go publically protest...where is it? This abomination taking place in the Diocese of Baltimore is from: St. Matthews Roman Catholic Church 5401 Loch Raven Blvd. Baltimore, MD 21239 If anyone would care to write to the Archbishop of Baltimore in protest of these abominations taking place his address is: Archbishop William E. Lori 320 Cathedral St. Baltimore, Md 21201 I am not good saying not to protest, but what I will say is that all organized protest or groups that have formed among Catholics for the last 50 years have been ineffective. Every evil we oppose whether against the Novus Ordo sect, or against all sorts of evils in society has accomplished almost nothing. In many cases, new evils have formed by Catholics organizing in non-commissioned groups. As Vox said, we need a Pope, our lawful commissioned leader to lead the way. Without the hierarchy leading us, we are all just wandering sheep. IMO, the best we can do right now is to pray, do penance, and just try our best to live our Faith in this situation. God has permitted all of these evils, He can end them all in an instant.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jun 12, 2017 21:49:50 GMT -5
Well go publically protest...where is it? This abomination taking place in the Diocese of Baltimore is from: St. Matthews Roman Catholic Church 5401 Loch Raven Blvd. Baltimore, MD 21239 If anyone would care to write to the Archbishop of Baltimore in protest of these abominations taking place his address is: Archbishop William E. Lori 320 Cathedral St. Baltimore, Md 21201 I posted all this on Facebook
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 0:44:36 GMT -5
This abomination taking place in the Diocese of Baltimore is from: St. Matthews Roman Catholic Church 5401 Loch Raven Blvd. Baltimore, MD 21239 If anyone would care to write to the Archbishop of Baltimore in protest of these abominations taking place his address is: Archbishop William E. Lori 320 Cathedral St. Baltimore, Md 21201 I am not good saying not to protest, but what I will say is that all organized protest or groups that have formed among Catholics for the last 50 years have been ineffective. Every evil we oppose whether against the Novus Ordo sect, or against all sorts of evils in society has accomplished almost nothing. In many cases, new evils have formed by Catholics organizing in non-commissioned groups. As Vox said, we need a Pope, our lawful commissioned leader to lead the way. Without the hierarchy leading us, we are all just wandering sheep. IMO, the best we can do right now is to pray, do penance, and just try our best to live our Faith in this situation. God has permitted all of these evils, He can end them all in an instant. Pacelli - What do you mean and can you give an example of "new evils have formed by Catholics organizing in non-commissioned groups"?? What about the anti-abortionists as they assemble and protest in groups??
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Post by Pacelli on Jun 13, 2017 10:10:37 GMT -5
I am not good saying not to protest, but what I will say is that all organized protest or groups that have formed among Catholics for the last 50 years have been ineffective. Every evil we oppose whether against the Novus Ordo sect, or against all sorts of evils in society has accomplished almost nothing. In many cases, new evils have formed by Catholics organizing in non-commissioned groups. As Vox said, we need a Pope, our lawful commissioned leader to lead the way. Without the hierarchy leading us, we are all just wandering sheep. IMO, the best we can do right now is to pray, do penance, and just try our best to live our Faith in this situation. God has permitted all of these evils, He can end them all in an instant. Pacelli - What do you mean and can you give an example of "new evils have formed by Catholics organizing in non-commissioned groups"?? What about the anti-abortionists as they assemble and protest in groups?? The unlawful denial of Holy Communion, the usurpation of power belonging only to the hierarchy, treating the sacraments as possessions of a group rather than belonging to the Church. I could go on. The anti-abortionists are doing good, but as I have said, generally speaking they are ineffective. It's still worth doing, just don't expect much.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jun 13, 2017 10:58:58 GMT -5
Ive been to half a dozen march for life in DC I don't go anymore because the novus ordo has turned it into a useless pep rally...thousands of people peacfully walk around in a circle then go home. A true protest done with courage and a concern to be effective would simply pour into the Supreme court till all those thousands of people would occupy the courthouse. But the leadership simply uses the parade to actually "soften" the protests...they walk in a circle...feel better about themselves and go home patting themselves on the back...meanwhile Bishops talk talk talk...and babies die die die. Protests are useless. I m o
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 11:40:42 GMT -5
Pacelli - What do you mean and can you give an example of "new evils have formed by Catholics organizing in non-commissioned groups"?? What about the anti-abortionists as they assemble and protest in groups?? The unlawful denial of Holy Communion, the usurpation of power belonging only to the hierarchy, treating the sacraments as possessions of a group rather than belonging to the Church. I could go on. The anti-abortionists are doing good, but as I have said, generally speaking they are ineffective. It's still worth doing, just don't expect much. In this particular instance the issue is about a purportedly Roman Catholic Church leading a Homosexual pride event which is being sponsored by a Satanic Witches Coven. It is not about the sacraments or usurping of powers. I would even think that most Protestants would agree that this event being sponsored by a Witches Coven is anti-Christian. These people are using the Catholic name to further a cause that is anti-Christian, anti-Catholic and this abomination needs exposed. That is all I am trying to say. If anyone would care to write to the Diocese of Baltimore, the address has been provided in a post above. A phone call would do also in lieu of writing. If people keep silent, evil continues to flourish. The usurpers in this instance are the homosexuals and satantists using the name of the Roman Catholic Church to further their agenda!!
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jun 13, 2017 11:46:28 GMT -5
lm not keeping silent...I have a forum that fights this nonsense daily
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Post by Pacelli on Jun 13, 2017 12:18:10 GMT -5
The unlawful denial of Holy Communion, the usurpation of power belonging only to the hierarchy, treating the sacraments as possessions of a group rather than belonging to the Church. I could go on. The anti-abortionists are doing good, but as I have said, generally speaking they are ineffective. It's still worth doing, just don't expect much. In this particular instance the issue is about a purportedly Roman Catholic Church leading a Homosexual pride event which is being sponsored by a Satanic Witches Coven. It is not about the sacraments or usurping of powers. I would even think that most Protestants would agree that this event being sponsored by a Witches Coven is anti-Christian. These people are using the Catholic name to further a cause that is anti-Christian, anti-Catholic and this abomination needs exposed. That is all I am trying to say. If anyone would care to write to the Diocese of Baltimore, the address has been provided in a post above. A phone call would do also in lieu of writing. If people keep silent, evil continues to flourish. The usurpers in this instance are the homosexuals and satantists using the name of the Roman Catholic Church to further their agenda! I agree with everything your saying Veronica. Its horrible what they are doing. What I am saying is this: we are de facto leaderless, we are the sheep of the Church. The State is not even on our side. The greater majority of the population from all appearances is mired in or at least supportive of sin. God has not sent us a Saint to lead the way either. Most of the few of us left who still believe the Catholic Faith are bogged down with the duties of our state in life, just trying to make a living, pay the bills, raise children, etc. Even if we want to band together to organize a resistance, where does one even start, evil is everywhere and it is public: abortion, homosexuality, living in sin, fornication, attacks against natural gender identity, pornography, contraception, gross immodesty, the Novus Ordo, and on and on it goes. The State no longer cares about morality, and those who stand for it are maligned as "haters." From a human point of view, it would look like it's over for us, that the Church is finished. But, we know through Faith that God is still in charge, that the Church cannot die, and we just need to wait until he shows us what to do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 12:46:03 GMT -5
In this particular instance the issue is about a purportedly Roman Catholic Church leading a Homosexual pride event which is being sponsored by a Satanic Witches Coven. It is not about the sacraments or usurping of powers. I would even think that most Protestants would agree that this event being sponsored by a Witches Coven is anti-Christian. These people are using the Catholic name to further a cause that is anti-Christian, anti-Catholic and this abomination needs exposed. That is all I am trying to say. If anyone would care to write to the Diocese of Baltimore, the address has been provided in a post above. A phone call would do also in lieu of writing. If people keep silent, evil continues to flourish. The usurpers in this instance are the homosexuals and satantists using the name of the Roman Catholic Church to further their agenda! I agree with everything your saying Veronica. Its horrible what they are doing. What I am saying is this: we are de facto leaderless, we are the sheep of the Church. The State is not even on our side. The greater majority of the population from all appearances is mired in or at least supportive of sin. God has not sent us a Saint to lead the way either. Most of the few of us left who still believe the Catholic Faith are bogged down with the duties of our state in life, just trying to make a living, pay the bills, raise children, etc. Even if we want to band together to organize a resistance, where does one even start, evil is everywhere and it is public: abortion, homosexuality, living in sin, fornication, attacks against natural gender identity, pornography, contraception, gross immodesty, the Novus Ordo, and on and on it goes. The State no longer cares about morality, and those who stand for it are maligned as "haters." From a human point of view, it would look like it's over for us, that the Church is finished. But, we know through Faith that God is still in charge, that the Church cannot die, and we just need to wait until he shows us what to do. A phone call or a letter to the Archbishop of Baltimore concerning this homosexual pride event and it's being sponsored by a satanic witches coven doesn't cost much or take much time. It is worth a try. Archbishop Lori is probably used to and counting on people's silence and acquiescence in regards to these kinds of abominations taking place in his diocese.
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Post by Pacelli on Jun 13, 2017 12:58:16 GMT -5
I agree with everything your saying Veronica. Its horrible what they are doing. What I am saying is this: we are de facto leaderless, we are the sheep of the Church. The State is not even on our side. The greater majority of the population from all appearances is mired in or at least supportive of sin. God has not sent us a Saint to lead the way either. Most of the few of us left who still believe the Catholic Faith are bogged down with the duties of our state in life, just trying to make a living, pay the bills, raise children, etc. Even if we want to band together to organize a resistance, where does one even start, evil is everywhere and it is public: abortion, homosexuality, living in sin, fornication, attacks against natural gender identity, pornography, contraception, gross immodesty, the Novus Ordo, and on and on it goes. The State no longer cares about morality, and those who stand for it are maligned as "haters." From a human point of view, it would look like it's over for us, that the Church is finished. But, we know through Faith that God is still in charge, that the Church cannot die, and we just need to wait until he shows us what to do. A phone call or a letter to the Archbishop of Baltimore concerning this homosexual pride event and it's being sponsored by a satanic witches coven doesn't cost much or take much time. It is worth a try. Archbishop Lori is probably used to and counting on people's silence and acquiescence in regards to these kinds of abominations taking place in his diocese. Sure, as I said before, go for it. I am not trying to discourage you. With that said, I have known people take an active approach like this to get scandalized when it doesn't do anything or they get reprimanded for saying something. It happened to my aunt years many years ago, actually, over the abortion matter. Her Faith was harmed, as she associated the Novus Ordo Monsignor with the Church. I know that you see through these characters and the false claims they have to the offices they pretend to hold. So, on that account you will be better insulated to deal with the scandalous way they will treat you, or the indifference they have to God's law and the teaching of the Church.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 4:38:42 GMT -5
My husband has just told me that he is against me organizing any kind of a protest regarding the Novus Ordo Homosexual Pride Event sponsored by a Witches Coven. I can, however, write an anonymous letter to the Archbishop of Baltimore. That is the end of this discussion as far as I am concerned regarding this matter.
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