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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 19:19:30 GMT -5
Because my VHS player is eating movies (the last one it destroyed was The Cardinal), I was unable to watch many of the Christmas movies I always watch ever year. So this year, on New Years Eve, my wife and I had a very narrow selection of Christmas DVDs from which to choose. We decided to watch Miracle on 34th Street after the kids went to bed. Harmless enough, right? I had completely forgotten that the mother in the movie is divorced. My wife couldn't remember the end of the movie well enough to remember what happened, so we kept watching only to find out that it is implied she remarries at the end of the movie. Now, this is a movie that goes back at least 50 years. It got me thinking: Why was the subject of divorce and remarriage shoehorned into this movie? It's a family/kids movie, happens at Christmas time, and was created in a period was this was still somewhat controversial. They producers HAD to know this would be watched all over the Western hemisphere for generations to come, especially being a Christmas movie. Why make the binding glue of the movie about the little girl getting her already-married mother a home with her adulterous companion--and then show it to kids all over the West by marketing it to families as an innocent family Christmas movie? Why couldn't the husband had died instead of being divorced? Barring the existence of an annulment, which was not discussed in the movie, we are left with the impression that the entire resolution to the conflict is an illegitimate union. Now, I'm not pretending this is more deserving of boycotting than just about everything Hollywood has come out with since, but I find it noteworthy that even that long ago, the same socially and morally repugnant behavior that has spearheaded the systematic assault on the family unit was already being readily accepted into our homes and normalized in the minds of the next generation: our defenseless, vulnerable children.
Direct proof of social engineering? Absolutely not. Direct evidence of it? Absolutely. I'm glad I watched it again before letting the kids see it. Think about it. Today, divorce and remarriage is perfectly acceptable, so seeing a movie about it isn't as alarming because it can be argued that the movie is simply following social trends, not creating them. Like Brokeback Mountain trying to advance the normalization of homosexual unions, I saw Miracle on 34th Street as a similar attempt not to follow a social trend but instead trying to make it one.
Does anyone else watch this movie? Anyone else have the same impression? Do you let your kids see it? What are your thoughts?
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jan 1, 2018 22:30:30 GMT -5
Yes we passed on this back when the kids were little for that very reason...in fact the whole thing was horribly depressing and not joyus at all. Other offensive themes were the psychological assumptions and theorys promoted...(you know where they tried to lock up santa) also the obvious materialism and feminist savour of the Mothers attitudes. The loneliness and abandoning of the little girl. The promotion of the urbane as the hight of civilization. Yeah ...dreck! The only movie we play every year is the Allister Simms portrayal of scrooge and maybe the animated little drummer boy.
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Post by jen51 on Jan 2, 2018 9:18:46 GMT -5
I've not heard of the movie until now. Based on your description, I would not let my children watch it either. Besides the obvious moral no-no's in it, it sounds quite depressing which definitely doesn't fit the Christmas season that should be filled with hope and gladness!
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Post by Jayne on Jan 2, 2018 18:51:13 GMT -5
I agree about Miracle on 34th Street. It reminds me of the time I was watching The Waltons with my children, thinking it was a wholesome show. It is for the most part, but there was an episode about a divorcee falling in love and remarrying. The people who were rightly objecting were portrayed as the judgmental bad guys of the episode.
We really can't assume anything is safe to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 18:54:37 GMT -5
Yes we passed on this back when the kids were little for that very reason...in fact the whole thing was horribly depressing and not joyus at all. Other offensive themes were the psychological assumptions and theorys promoted...(you know where they tried to lock up santa) also the obvious materialism and feminist savour of the Mothers attitudes. The loneliness and abandoning of the little girl. The promotion of the urbane as the hight of civilization. Yeah ...dreck! The only movie we play every year is the Allister Simms portrayal of scrooge and maybe the animated little drummer boy. I'm a big fan of It's a Wonderful Life, personally. Although it isn't free from subversive cultural ideas, at least you have to nitpick to find them. With Miracle on 34th Street it's impossible to miss them!
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jan 3, 2018 19:59:33 GMT -5
Its a wonderful life is excelllent.
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Post by Clotilde on Jan 4, 2018 0:21:57 GMT -5
Miracle on 34th Street has always been a movie that we do not watch in our home, mostly for the reasons you cite.
Generally speaking, divorce are situations one thing we try to watch out for in films. As always, you sort of take things on a case by case basis.
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Post by Clotilde on Jan 4, 2018 0:24:22 GMT -5
I just want to mention that "Come to the Stable" is now on Amazon instant video, all of my badgering them over the years certainly paid off.
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Post by Barbara on Jan 9, 2018 5:57:20 GMT -5
I just want to mention that "Come to the Stable" is now on Amazon instant video, all of my badgering them over the years certainly paid off. Thank you for the recommendation. I'm not well-informed about movies and enjoyed this very much. I rented it on Google Play for $2.99.
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Post by Clotilde on Jan 10, 2018 2:15:53 GMT -5
I just want to mention that "Come to the Stable" is now on Amazon instant video, all of my badgering them over the years certainly paid off. Thank you for the recommendation. I'm not well-informed about movies and enjoyed this very much. I rented it on Google Play for $2.99. Oh good! It is definitely a lesser known film. My grandmother was a movie buff and even my mother had never heard of it, though I am sure my grandmother would have known it. I'm convinced she saw every black and white movie ever made four times over.
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Post by heinrich on Jan 14, 2018 0:44:30 GMT -5
That Chevy Chase movie at Christmas is hilarious. Or is it an allegory of the dopey white maleness oppression we as a society must endure?
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jan 14, 2018 11:38:46 GMT -5
Elf is hilarious too...but again divorce...outofwedlock children...evil ed asner hollyweird communist as Santa. Not Catholic xmas fare around the hearth.
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Post by heinrich on Jan 14, 2018 15:35:37 GMT -5
Buddy's mom chose life. Yet, what you said, Voxxboss. Ultimately, no Christian component.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jan 14, 2018 18:11:25 GMT -5
Buddy's mom chose life. Yet, what you said, Voxxboss. Ultimately, no Christian component. Yes that was a good thing. The whole angry elf bit was off the hook funny...as was the "you sit on a throne of lies!" Bit classic😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 17:25:29 GMT -5
Come to the Stable? Hmm. I have heard of it but never seen it. I will have to check it out.
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