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Post by Pacelli on Jun 30, 2017 8:03:03 GMT -5
(Background: in the last year or so there have been numerous discussions on the content of the book, True or False Pope, by Robert Siscoe and John Salza, on the Suscipe Domine discussion board. An excellent poster by the name "Nazianzen" along with some other excellent posters have done a tremendous amount of work demonstrating point by point the dangerous errors and methods these men have used in writing their book. With that said, the forum that hosted these discussions has now hidden them from public view, and I have been able to obtain copies of them which I am now sharing with all of you on the Trad Forum. The errors of Siscoe and Salza play on ignorance, the posts of Nazianzen and the other excellent posters help to break through their sophistry, and by that insulate the reader from falling for their clever tricks, i.e. manipulating texts, presenting heterodox sources as though they are Catholic, using inflammatory and emotional language to appeal to the passions, etc. ) Nazianzen - The Sede Challenge linked HERE
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Post by William Pius Robert Winslow on Jun 30, 2017 16:47:54 GMT -5
Thank you for these precious materials. They expose the lies after lies of S&S.
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Post by Pacelli on Jul 1, 2017 11:14:36 GMT -5
Thank you for these precious materials. They expose the lies after lies of S&S. Thanks for the support William. The writer Nazianzen did an amazing job at debunking these two on the Suscipe Domine Forum. After the owners of this forum buried this great work, by hiding the entire subforum from public view, I decided to preserve all of it, and make it accesible for all Catholics who want the truth and are not able to see through Siscoe and Salza fallacies. After I finish with Nazianzen's work, I plan to link all of Fr. Kramers excellent refutations to them as well. Siscoe and Salza are masters of the art of sophistry, their argument has the surface appearance of being strong, well-documented, and that they are masters of the material they write on. The reality is that they are clueless, they take many of their sources from us, and then twist their meaning, and many of their other sources are not trustworthy. They surfed the net, strung together quotes, provided their own twisted interpretation of those quotes, tied it together and published a book.
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Post by William Pius Robert Winslow on Jul 1, 2017 13:35:56 GMT -5
Thank you for these precious materials. They expose the lies after lies of S&S. Thanks for the support William. The writer Nazianzen did an amazing job at debunking these two on the Suscipe Domine Forum. After the owners of this forum buried this great work, by hiding the entire subforum from public view, I decided to preserve all of it, and make it accesible for all Catholics who want the truth and are not able to see through Siscoe and Salza fallacies. After I finish with Nazianzen's work, I plan to link all of Fr. Kramers excellent refutations to them as well. Siscoe and Salza are masters of the art of sophistry, their argument has the surface appearance of being strong, well-documented, and that they are masters of the material they write on. The reality is that they are clueless, they take many of their sources from us, and then twist their meaning, and many of their other are not trustworthy. They surfed the net, strung together quotes, provided their own twisted interpretation of those quotes, tied it together and published a book. I second this. S&S is a master of twisting the meaning of the original authors. The best examples are their twisting of Saint Robert Bellarmine's and John of Saint Thomas' works, in order to support their own, unfounded interpretation. How absurd that many SSPX Priests are supporting that book.
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