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Post by Clotilde on Jun 18, 2017 19:51:33 GMT -5
My kids are getting hitting their adolescent years and they've had some questions and we have had some nice talks. One of my children recently asked me how they are supposed to even meet a potential spouse. There are virtually no Catholic children where we go to mass and none living within two hours of us.
Obviously, prayer is excellent but one has to act as well. I'm just thinking maybe there is something I could do now that others wished they might have done for their own kids. If you have younger kids, what do you think? I'm interested in hearing what everyone has to say across the board.
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Post by jen51 on Jun 18, 2017 21:58:13 GMT -5
I wish I had some ideas for discussion here, but I don't. Within the next couple years we will be moving about 30 minutes south, which is where most of our close Catholic friends live who also have growing families. I'm hoping our children will marry each other, lol.
There is, of course, the option of trying to find a spouse online but most of the time you've got to wade through a lot of crazies. I found my husband online (although we had met in person once a couple years before that). Before I found my husband I was discerning marriage with a different Catholic fellow that I met on CathInfo, who was a good Catholic and an excellent man. We just weren't right for each other. There are good Catholics on there if you can find them. Catholic forums aren't a bad place to look. I ran into my fair share of unsavory men with the Catholic Match escapade though. I'm glad that part of my life is over!
With the Trad world being so divided, it makes finding a spouse, or helping your children find a spouse, even more difficult. As a Sedevacantists, would one frown upon the match of ones child with someone who wasn't sede? And vice-versa.
Do any traditional groups have mix and mingle get togethers for single people? It might be something to consider down the road if such a thing exists.
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Post by Clotilde on Jun 18, 2017 23:24:16 GMT -5
I wish I had some ideas for discussion here, but I don't. Within the next couple years we will be moving about 30 minutes south, which is where most of our close Catholic friends live who also have growing families. I'm hoping our children will marry each other, lol. There is, of course, the option of trying to find a spouse online but most of the time you've got to wade through a lot of crazies. I found my husband online (although we had met in person once a couple years before that). Before I found my husband I was discerning marriage with a different Catholic fellow that I met on CathInfo, who was a good Catholic and an excellent man. We just weren't right for each other. There are good Catholics on there if you can find them. Catholic forums aren't a bad place to look. I ran into my fair share of unsavory men with the Catholic Match escapade though. I'm glad that part of my life is over! With the Trad world being so divided, it makes finding a spouse, or helping your children find a spouse, even more difficult. As a Sedevacantists, would one frown upon the match of ones child with someone who wasn't sede? And vice-versa. Do any traditional groups have mix and mingle get togethers for single people? It might be something to consider down the road if such a thing exists. I find it harder for the girls than the boys. I think the biggest issue among traditionalists is the acceptance or rejection of the new rite of ordination, if you could agree on that one way or another, that is a big point. Secondly, if one is too attached to a group and the group shifts in policy or thinking, it could spell trouble for a marriage. If one spouse recognizes a bad situation and wants to break from it, there's could be trouble if the other one is too invested. I suppose that would assume that most traditionalists know the whole situation is teetering over a ledge. I guess they would probably have to agree on the appropriate place in their lives for any trad priest or group and probably come to an understanding of the nature of authority in this crisis, or if they cannot understand it, at least they could agree upon it. If they were well-matched intellectually, It would probably assist in these issues. I wouldn't necessarily frown on any match, you would probably have to take everything on a case by case basis.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 11:14:15 GMT -5
What about starting meet-up groups with members on this forum?? For example those who live on the east coast meet-up for a weekend and have a picnic in a park or something similar. That way people get to socialize and meet one another and their families in person. Just an idea.
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jun 19, 2017 20:02:53 GMT -5
I think some of the different trad groups have Young Adult Get-togethers to meet others. Then there is Trad circle, if it's still around. I think there is also traditionalsingles.com and sspxsingles.com
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jun 19, 2017 20:47:46 GMT -5
Its a horrific situation...at this rate I pray they get married at all.
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Post by Clotilde on Jun 19, 2017 21:07:12 GMT -5
Its a horrific situation...at this rate I pray they get married at all. It seems like there is a cliff in every direction. It is hard to stay in the middle.
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Post by Pacelli on Jun 19, 2017 21:12:12 GMT -5
The entire situation among Catholics is like standing on shifting sands, when one marries he or she must take that into account.
Until we have the stability of Rome, husband's and wives must stand together on principle to avoid the Novus Ordo, and to be very careful with whatever situation they find themselves in for mass, for their and their children's sakes.
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Post by micah1199 on Jun 20, 2017 5:49:07 GMT -5
Truly, I am glad that I am single. It is a horror out in the world. I honestly think constant prayer by the child for a spouse would be the best action with the real possibility that God may prefer the person to be single for the salvation of his or her soul. A person must firmly reject the modern world and its ideas and pomps to be a good spouse both as a man and a woman. How many will willingly embrace this type of martyrdom? Trad spouses without a firm faith get tired of this and decide to go crazy and embrace the world leaving the other with the bag. I have heard of cases for both men and women.
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Post by micah1199 on Jun 20, 2017 6:21:05 GMT -5
Let's be honest, never has comfort, gratification, and all the snares of sensuality been so readily available to all classes of men as it is today. The world was much harsher 100 years ago. Thier is probably a class of trad children that are just waiting to grow up, so that they can as the prodigal embrace the world. Who knows if they will truly return before death? Pray that your sons do not marry the type of trad daughter that is just marrying to get out of her parent's roof, but in her heart desires to embrace the world.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Jun 20, 2017 11:22:58 GMT -5
The world screams better to not marry at all...or wait till you have more money...which is never.
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Post by Clotilde on Jun 20, 2017 13:30:38 GMT -5
The world screams better to not marry at all...or wait till you have more money...which is never. If I see one more article on how marriage does not work or it is out-dated...
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Post by Clotilde on Jun 20, 2017 15:45:43 GMT -5
I personally think it is better in these days for the majority of traditional Catholics to get married. The reason why is because they will need support in their Faith in the coming days. Many people have tiny families now and almost no siblings, when their Catholic parents die they will be on their own, alone against the world. I would be much more secure knowing they had a good spouse with whom to "work out their salvation." Additionally, who will make decisions at the end of their lives, call a priest, make sure they are buried properly? The answer is pretty much no one unless they have Catholic children.
Having a family and a good marriage is a revolt against the spirit of the world.
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Post by Barbara on Jun 26, 2017 4:09:52 GMT -5
I personally think it is better in these days for the majority of traditional Catholics to get married. The reason why is because they will need support in their Faith in the coming days. Many people have tiny families now and almost no siblings, when their Catholic parents die they will be on their own, alone against the world. I would be much more secure knowing they had a good spouse with whom to "work out their salvation." Additionally, who will make decisions at the end of their lives, call a priest, make sure they are buried properly? The answer is pretty much no one unless they have Catholic children. Having a family and a good marriage is a revolt against the spirit of the world. This is another post that induced me to register as a member, as the above exactly describes my situation. Tiny family, only one sibling- who is estranged due to our opposed religious views-, and both parents deceased. Our Lord, Our Lady, and St. Joseph have protected me so far, and certainly are capable of doing so until the end, but the position is dangerous and frightening.
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Post by Jayne on Jun 26, 2017 4:46:54 GMT -5
I personally think it is better in these days for the majority of traditional Catholics to get married. The reason why is because they will need support in their Faith in the coming days. Many people have tiny families now and almost no siblings, when their Catholic parents die they will be on their own, alone against the world. I would be much more secure knowing they had a good spouse with whom to "work out their salvation." Additionally, who will make decisions at the end of their lives, call a priest, make sure they are buried properly? The answer is pretty much no one unless they have Catholic children. Having a family and a good marriage is a revolt against the spirit of the world. This is a really good point. I feel like we live in a world gone mad. But it is possible for us, at least to some extent, to make our homes into oases of sanity and faith. Being a homemaker has always been more important that the modern world gives it credit for, but it may be even moreso now. It is a crucial battlefield in a time of spiritual war. Helping my husband, raising my children, running my home are things I do to fight the world, the flesh and the devil. I sent my youngest daughter (the older ones are already married) to a small Catholic college this past year, partly to give her a bigger social network of practicing Catholic young people. It is a college that attracts both trads and conservative Novus Ordo, so not everyone there has views that I completely agree with. But I think this is better than a situation in which most people she meets have absorbed the views of the world.
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