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Post by John Lewis on Mar 14, 2023 14:10:32 GMT -5
The ceremony will take place on Monday May 1, 2023 at 10am. More information here. He runs a seminary in Nigeria and it is not safe for another Bishop to visit there. Please keep him in your prayers.
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Post by RitaMarita on Mar 14, 2023 19:28:27 GMT -5
The ceremony will take place on Monday May 1, 2023 at 10am. More information here. He runs a seminary in Nigeria and it is not safe for another Bishop to visit there. Please keep him in your prayers. From what I have seen, he seems like Avery good priest. I recently recommended him to someone in Nigeria looking for a priest. I am glad to hear that his mission there will have more support by his being a bishop soon.
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Post by John Lewis on Mar 16, 2023 3:38:32 GMT -5
The ceremony will take place on Monday May 1, 2023 at 10am. More information here. He runs a seminary in Nigeria and it is not safe for another Bishop to visit there. Please keep him in your prayers. From what I have seen, he seems like Avery good priest. I recently recommended him to someone in Nigeria looking for a priest. I am glad to hear that his mission there will have more support by his being a bishop soon. He is a good priest, but his group are dogmatic NUCs and totalists. I know of people who have SSPX near them and are starving themselves of the sacraments because of guidance from this group. As much as I like Fr Nkamuke, I wouldn't recommend him if there were other options because of these beliefs.
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Post by RitaMarita on Mar 16, 2023 9:16:59 GMT -5
From what I have seen, he seems like Avery good priest. I recently recommended him to someone in Nigeria looking for a priest. I am glad to hear that his mission there will have more support by his being a bishop soon. He is a good priest, but his group are dogmatic NUCs and totalists. I know of people who have SSPX near them and are starving themselves of the sacraments because of guidance from this group. As much as I like Fr Nkamuke, I wouldn't recommend him if there were other options because of these beliefs. I hold a moderate Non-Una-Cum position. So, I understand your reservation in recommending those who hold the super hard-line position. Yet, I find that in most other issues besides this one they are more solid than many other traditional groups out there. Every group seems to have some sort of problem or issue... I do however warn people about this issue whenever I recommend Bishop Sanborn or Saint Gertrude's associates. I am grateful that we have a balanced priest at our chapel. He tells us to be careful of the SSPX and make sure that any priest we go to with them (if we go occasionally when on trips etc.) is ordained properly. At the same time he says that Bishop Sanborn and those who hold the "dogmatic" non una cum position are not the pope but that we can attend their Masses as well.
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Post by Didymus on Mar 16, 2023 10:53:29 GMT -5
From what I have seen, he seems like Avery good priest. I recently recommended him to someone in Nigeria looking for a priest. I am glad to hear that his mission there will have more support by his being a bishop soon. He is a good priest, but his group are dogmatic NUCs and totalists. I know of people who have SSPX near them and are starving themselves of the sacraments because of guidance from this group. As much as I like Fr Nkamuke, I wouldn't recommend him if there were other options because of these beliefs. I think that the most serious thing of all, and I have even seen it a few days ago on social networks, is that people publish saying "these are the true pastors and bishops of the Catholic Church", I think that in addition to the NUC and totalism, etc. the fact to believe that these traditional bishops are the Hierarchy after learning about this, I think it is the most serious thing. If this is not moderated, it will end in a schism, which is why I think I do not agree to make a Bishop. As someone warned in a part here in the forum, they will end up becoming pure """governments""" feudal. The crisis is horrible, but is it really justified to consecrate a bishop every 4 months? Even many don't even have the basic requirements, that honestly scares me.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Mar 16, 2023 11:16:57 GMT -5
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Post by Pacelli on Mar 16, 2023 12:03:06 GMT -5
He is a good priest, but his group are dogmatic NUCs and totalists. I know of people who have SSPX near them and are starving themselves of the sacraments because of guidance from this group. As much as I like Fr Nkamuke, I wouldn't recommend him if there were other options because of these beliefs. I think that the most serious thing of all, and I have even seen it a few days ago on social networks, is that people publish saying "these are the true pastors and bishops of the Catholic Church", I think that in addition to the NUC and totalism, etc. the fact to believe that these traditional bishops are the Hierarchy after learning about this, I think it is the most serious thing. If this is not moderated, it will end in a schism, which is why I think I do not agree to make a Bishop. As someone warned in a part here in the forum, they will end up becoming pure """governments""" feudal. The crisis is horrible, but is it really justified to consecrate a bishop every 4 months? Even many don't even have the basic requirements, that honestly scares me. Thommie, Your concerns are very real. More and more sedevacantists are believing these sacramental bishops are successors of the Apostles, and the sedevacantists bishops and priests are not doing anything, at least that I can see to put out this fire, so it is spreading. Catholics are believing this falsehood, and many are taking it to its next step, and promoting an illegal papal election. What you are witnessing are the building blocks of a schismatic sect, or perhaps sects, with unauthorized leaders governing, and the laity of the Church submitting to men who are not their lawful bishops and pastors. It's already happening in some of these groups, so it's not just theoretical, it's here and can be witnessed by anyone who wants to see with their own eyes. There are truly sacramental bishops binding Catholics to their opinions and orders, and punishing those who do not obey through the denial of sacraments from either them or the priests who obey them, thereby in practice asserting jurisdiction and taking the place of diocesan bishops binding and loosening power given only to the Apostles and their successors. Regardless of whether they claim the apostolic succession, they are gathering and ruling over the sheep, who in return are submitting to them, so their actions are showing one thing, even if their words are not making a formal claim to an office.
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Post by Didymus on Mar 16, 2023 12:15:16 GMT -5
I think that the most serious thing of all, and I have even seen it a few days ago on social networks, is that people publish saying "these are the true pastors and bishops of the Catholic Church", I think that in addition to the NUC and totalism, etc. the fact to believe that these traditional bishops are the Hierarchy after learning about this, I think it is the most serious thing. If this is not moderated, it will end in a schism, which is why I think I do not agree to make a Bishop. As someone warned in a part here in the forum, they will end up becoming pure """governments""" feudal. The crisis is horrible, but is it really justified to consecrate a bishop every 4 months? Even many don't even have the basic requirements, that honestly scares me. Thommie, Your concerns are very real. More and more sedevacantists are believing these sacramental bishops are successors of the Apostles, and the sedevacantists bishops and priests are not doing anything, at least that I can see to put out this fire, so it is spreading. Catholics are believing this falsehood, and many are taking it to its next step, and promoting an illegal papal election. What you are witnessing are the building blocks of a schismatic sect, or perhaps sects, with unauthorized leaders governing, and the laity of the Church submitting to men who are not their lawful bishops and pastors. It's already happening in some of these groups, so it's not just theoretical, it's here and can be witnessed by anyone who wants to see with their own eyes. There are truly sacramental bishops binding Catholics to their opinions and orders, and punishing those who do not obey through the denial of sacraments from either them or the priests who obey them, thereby in practice asserting jurisdiction and taking the place of diocesan bishops binding and loosening power given only to the Apostles and their successors. Regardless of whether they claim the apostolic succession, they are gathering and ruling over the sheep, who in return are submitting to them, so their actions are showing one thing, even if their words are not making a formal claim to an office. If it was precisely finding out about this situation that aroused my concern about this, they are literally forming "their own hierarchy"... but I don't know to what extent there is "ignorance" in all this, I don't what think. But i dont think intentional malice in some of these groups and Bishops, but perhaps a kind of "human respect" is taking over the conscience of these priests or Bishops. I am surprised that every time among the laity the idea of "sedevacantist unity" has been propagandized and this has led many CMRI laymen to have a deep respect for Sanborn and I think that out of sheer ignorance the young seminarians and priests seem not to be forming on the old bases of sedevacantism and have captured these current errors. But I can't be sure about this, I hope Pivarunas stops this, I respect him.
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Post by RitaMarita on Mar 16, 2023 13:52:59 GMT -5
Most of the priests whom I have met from the larger sede groups (CMRI, Sanborn etc)seem to mean well and have the best of intentions. That doesn't mean that they never make mistakes. Who doesn't? I know that I have fallen into many various errors over the years. But God always seems to clarify things for those who mean well and place their trust in Him.
"Peace to men of good will."
The way I see it... In general most traditional Catholic priests have no normalized jurisdiction like parish priests or diocesan bishops. And so they can not bind the faithful in the same way that public clergy can and should. Yet, they do have a private right to administer the Sacraments and guidance when they can just as a private priest at a monastery or Abbot can give the Sacraments and guidance to those visiting him.
Without the Sacraments, it is MUCH harder to get to heaven. God understands that we must be prudent but also do our best and leave everything else in His Hands.
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Post by John Lewis on Mar 16, 2023 14:24:59 GMT -5
He is a good priest, but his group are dogmatic NUCs and totalists. I know of people who have SSPX near them and are starving themselves of the sacraments because of guidance from this group. As much as I like Fr Nkamuke, I wouldn't recommend him if there were other options because of these beliefs. I think that the most serious thing of all, and I have even seen it a few days ago on social networks, is that people publish saying "these are the true pastors and bishops of the Catholic Church", I think that in addition to the NUC and totalism, etc. the fact to believe that these traditional bishops are the Hierarchy after learning about this, I think it is the most serious thing. If this is not moderated, it will end in a schism, which is why I think I do not agree to make a Bishop. As someone warned in a part here in the forum, they will end up becoming pure """governments""" feudal. The crisis is horrible, but is it really justified to consecrate a bishop every 4 months? Even many don't even have the basic requirements, that honestly scares me. In Fr Nkamuke's case it is because there are no Bishops in Nigeria and he runs a seminary. It makes logical sense and he is old enough to be consecrated one.
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Post by Didymus on Mar 16, 2023 16:13:51 GMT -5
Most of the priests whom I have met from the larger sede groups (CMRI, Sanborn etc)seem to mean well and have the best of intentions. That doesn't mean that they never make mistakes. Who doesn't? I know that I have fallen into many various errors over the years. But God always seems to clarify things for those who mean well and place their trust in Him. "Peace to men of good will." The way I see it... In general most traditional Catholic priests have no normalized jurisdiction like parish priests or diocesan bishops. And so they can not bind the faithful in the same way that public clergy can and should. Yet, they do have a private right to administer the Sacraments and guidance when they can just as a private priest at a monastery or Abbot can give the Sacraments and guidance to those visiting him. Without the Sacraments, it is MUCH harder to get to heaven. God understands that we must be prudent but also do our best and leave everything else in His Hands. If I agree that we need the sacraments, I am not saying otherwise, only that I am really concerned with the speed with which sedevacantist episcopal consecrations are advancing.
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