Post by Butterfly3 on May 23, 2022 14:10:53 GMT -5
((I don't know too much about relics just the classes of them, I think that's correct.. If I'm incorrect in anything on this forum or anywhere else that you know me from, can you please say when I'm wrong so I can change my attitude, view, mindset, opinion on it? I've heard a lot of people tell me in the beginning that we should be careful what we say online like if you're talking about the faith as it could hurt someone else's faith or view of Catholicism if we're wrong in our words. Still struggle with this as I guess I'm not all that prudent, but I'm trying.))
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1.) Are relics the whole body and pieces of the Saints that are called incorruptibles or totally different terms?
2.) I've read some relics are in pieces (arms, legs, head, hair, skin, etc). Like a head of so and so would be in Rome and a leg in a one state and another leg in another country. How is this correct to do, when we don't believe in donating our body (skin, organs)?
I just changed my license as I think we're not supposed to be an organ donor, because of scandals that have happened with that. I've heard from others that
I assume that we're not supposed to be in pieces and all around the world. I do find that a bit unnerving and I feel uneasy about it all.
3.) I have seen St. John Vianney (sp?) heart when it traveled around the world a couple years ago. It was in the NO churches but I'm glad that I was able to see it. This question is about the classes of relics. A lot of people touched some holy cards, rosaries to the glass case to have it be a 2nd class, but someone said that for it to be a 2nd class it would actually have to touch the actual part of the person not the glass case that holds the relic, correct?
4.) I've heard that we can't sell blessed objects {but a priest recently said that we can but we shouldn't sell it for more because it's blessed. (correct?) } and we shouldn't buy relics because that's a sin or something. There's another correct term for it, I forgot that word. Also, if we can't buy relics, how are all these people getting these relics? It's not like someone is going to hand it out to you as a gift, because I've seen I guess it's the Vatican but on eBay it says it is or something with the name Vatican in it and they're so much money, like thousands of dollars. I really would like a relic, but if you can't buy it...
5.) I think 1st class is the actual body, hair of the body? 2nd is maybe cloth that touched the body like their habit or something? and 3rd is...I forgot now off the top of my head.
6.) This question is about the incorruptibles. If they do a certain process for the dead, wouldn't putting wax on the face and body make it look like the Saint hasn't aged at all? I have read the process of embalming and that is so the body doesn't rot quicker, I think? I've never seen a person open up a casket after years and it find it well preserved. I do know asking the funeral directors in the past that the casket isn't perfectly sealed so air does get inside but I don't know how much. I have wondered how the body even looks embalmed vs natural over time. I don't think there's anyway to find that out unless you ask the funeral directors that. Which I do tend to ask them a lot of questions out of curiosity. Is it really a unique thing if we open their caskets and find a less aging person in there. Maybe some people did this and others not? What if someone non catholic were an incorruptible, I'm sure that's possible, not only Catholics. What then?
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1.) Are relics the whole body and pieces of the Saints that are called incorruptibles or totally different terms?
2.) I've read some relics are in pieces (arms, legs, head, hair, skin, etc). Like a head of so and so would be in Rome and a leg in a one state and another leg in another country. How is this correct to do, when we don't believe in donating our body (skin, organs)?
I just changed my license as I think we're not supposed to be an organ donor, because of scandals that have happened with that. I've heard from others that
I assume that we're not supposed to be in pieces and all around the world. I do find that a bit unnerving and I feel uneasy about it all.
3.) I have seen St. John Vianney (sp?) heart when it traveled around the world a couple years ago. It was in the NO churches but I'm glad that I was able to see it. This question is about the classes of relics. A lot of people touched some holy cards, rosaries to the glass case to have it be a 2nd class, but someone said that for it to be a 2nd class it would actually have to touch the actual part of the person not the glass case that holds the relic, correct?
4.) I've heard that we can't sell blessed objects {but a priest recently said that we can but we shouldn't sell it for more because it's blessed. (correct?) } and we shouldn't buy relics because that's a sin or something. There's another correct term for it, I forgot that word. Also, if we can't buy relics, how are all these people getting these relics? It's not like someone is going to hand it out to you as a gift, because I've seen I guess it's the Vatican but on eBay it says it is or something with the name Vatican in it and they're so much money, like thousands of dollars. I really would like a relic, but if you can't buy it...
5.) I think 1st class is the actual body, hair of the body? 2nd is maybe cloth that touched the body like their habit or something? and 3rd is...I forgot now off the top of my head.
6.) This question is about the incorruptibles. If they do a certain process for the dead, wouldn't putting wax on the face and body make it look like the Saint hasn't aged at all? I have read the process of embalming and that is so the body doesn't rot quicker, I think? I've never seen a person open up a casket after years and it find it well preserved. I do know asking the funeral directors in the past that the casket isn't perfectly sealed so air does get inside but I don't know how much. I have wondered how the body even looks embalmed vs natural over time. I don't think there's anyway to find that out unless you ask the funeral directors that. Which I do tend to ask them a lot of questions out of curiosity. Is it really a unique thing if we open their caskets and find a less aging person in there. Maybe some people did this and others not? What if someone non catholic were an incorruptible, I'm sure that's possible, not only Catholics. What then?