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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jun 7, 2016 6:50:17 GMT -5
I'm putting this in he "Catholic News" thread although it doesn't fit here as it's not Catholic. I read the article and wonder if this is normal behaviour for parishioners at NO churches. And yet trad groups are the schismatic ones? Nytimes articleI know NO churches in my area where the lay people have made conservative priests leave for being "too strict."
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Post by jen51 on Jun 7, 2016 6:59:49 GMT -5
Conservative priests in the NO are not welcomed with open arms when they transfer to a new parish. I've seen that first hand.
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Post by chestertonian on Jun 7, 2016 7:05:01 GMT -5
"The parishioners plan to leave the church by 11:59 p.m. Monday and hold a service next Sunday in a Masonic lodge, a temporary stop while they try to raise money for a building of their own"
There are so many thing wrong with that sentence.
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jun 7, 2016 7:51:32 GMT -5
"The parishioners plan to leave the church by 11:59 p.m. Monday and hold a service next Sunday in a Masonic lodge, a temporary stop while they try to raise money for a building of their own" There are so many thing wrong with that sentence. I know!! When I first read a different article on the same topic I was initially feeling a little sorry for them, then I read that part and it was gone. The article I linked shows many more examples of the parishioners true colors.
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jun 7, 2016 7:52:56 GMT -5
Conservative priests in the NO are not welcomed with open arms when they transfer to a new parish. I've seen that first hand. Me, too. I've seen them lie and spread dangerous gossip about conservative N.O. priests and felt really sad for the priests, since they seem to be trying the best they know how.
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Post by RitaMarita on Jun 7, 2016 13:01:01 GMT -5
Back when I was novus ordo I knew a number of conservative novus ordo priests who were good-hearted and wanted to follow the traditions of the Church. Because of this they were often reprimanded by the Bishops and other hierarchy, sometimes even being sent to a canonical reprimanding retreat...
So sad...but once you realize that the novus ordo is not the final answer of truth, then it all fits together...
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Post by heinrich on Jun 9, 2016 10:24:10 GMT -5
Reminds me of what happened in Cincinnati a few years back with St. Getrude the Great dissatisfactants who went elsewhere sede with St. Albert the Great. "I don't like my church. Let's start a new one! It's right, because the people say so!"
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Post by Clotilde on Jun 9, 2016 10:44:09 GMT -5
Reminds me of what happened in Cincinnati a few years back with St. Getrude the Great dissatisfactants who went elsewhere sede with St. Albert the Great. "I don't like my church. Let's start a new one! It's right, because the people say so!" No way. First of all, those people are not under any obligation to attend SGG, even if they live next door. They can ask any priest they like for the sacraments. Secondly, there is no one to appeal to when a traddie chapel goes awry people have no other recourse than to be judge and jury with their own two feet. I understand and there were personalities involved but this is not like the Novus Ordo.
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Post by heinrich on Jun 9, 2016 14:58:21 GMT -5
Reminds me of what happened in Cincinnati a few years back with St. Getrude the Great dissatisfactants who went elsewhere sede with St. Albert the Great. "I don't like my church. Let's start a new one! It's right, because the people say so!" No way. First of all, those people are not under any obligation to attend SGG, even if they live next door. They can ask any priest they like for the sacraments. Secondly, there is no one to appeal to when a traddie chapel goes awry people have no other recourse than to be judge and jury with their own two feet. I understand and there were personalities involved but this is not like the Novus Ordo. Why didn't they go to Immaculate Conception in Norwood? Or to SSPX (at the time in Northside)?
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Post by Clotilde on Jun 9, 2016 21:25:08 GMT -5
No way. First of all, those people are not under any obligation to attend SGG, even if they live next door. They can ask any priest they like for the sacraments. Secondly, there is no one to appeal to when a traddie chapel goes awry people have no other recourse than to be judge and jury with their own two feet. I understand and there were personalities involved but this is not like the Novus Ordo. Why didn't they go to Immaculate Conception in Norwood? Or to SSPX (at the time in Northside)? The bottom line is that they can go wherever they like and ask any priest they like for the sacraments, they are not bound to any previously established mass site. Such is the legal status of trad chapels under the current situation, it's like the Wild West. The issues with the SGG scandals were not really doctrinal but due to scandal and politics. They don't have to have a reason because the law does not bind. They can set up ten chapels in the same city and be under no obligation since they are operating outside the law anyways. I don't think it can be compared to priest shopping in the Novus Ordo since those people are looking to be told what they want to hear to feel justified. Most traditionalists change chapels or start them because they want to save their souls and they are just doing their best given the odd circumstances. Often it is due to scandal or internal politics, it's probably better that they remove themselves from such situations than lose their faith.
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Jun 10, 2016 0:15:24 GMT -5
Reminds me of what happened in Cincinnati a few years back with St. Getrude the Great dissatisfactants who went elsewhere sede with St. Albert the Great. "I don't like my church. Let's start a new one! It's right, because the people say so!" Who'd they get for a new cleric?
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