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Post by Clotilde on May 1, 2019 11:44:43 GMT -5
This post is inspired by a traditionalist priest. He caused quite a bit of trouble and I noticed only a few people had the courage to call him out.
We are pretty quick to correct others but when a traditionalist priest does something wrong, we mostly fall silent.
Without the proper supervision of superiors and normal channels to report problems, criticism or correction is necessary. It seems by the silence of others that I am a minority in this opinion. I believe that criticism should be fair but that it could be direct and overt if the circumstances call for it.
I also think that traditionalist priests should apologize and retract actions or statements instead of digging in or justifying them.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 4, 2019 0:47:38 GMT -5
You mean like me calling FrCekada out for voicing an announcment on facebook to NOT attend another Priests funeral because ACCORDING TO HIM the Deceased's executor was not following the deceased's wishes? Now Im being attacked by the synchofants.And exactly to your point was my defense...Priests right now have nearly zero oversight by rightful Church authority. It was fawning over Priests that got the NO implimented in the first place...if the laity had stood up to the Changes...well who knows.
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Post by Clotilde on May 4, 2019 12:49:04 GMT -5
You mean like me calling FrCekada out for voicing an announcment on facebook to NOT attend another Priests funeral because ACCORDING TO HIM the Deceased's executor was not following the deceased's wishes? Now Im being attacked by the synchofants.And exactly to your point was my defense...Priests right now have nearly zero oversight by rightful Church authority. It was fawning over Priests that got the NO implimented in the first place...if the laity had stood up to the Changes...well who knows. I am sure no one will defend you, either. These ordained men hold no office in the church. They are not clerics. They are men who got ordained and we may request the sacraments of them. They are an irregular situation and holding them accountable falls to good Catholics, another irregularity, but so be it. They can abuse their powers or powers that people, through ignorance, perceive that they have. If we do nothing or keep silent they develop into their own "Sees" and become dangerously close to schism. If anything, good Catholics who speak up should be thanked and traditional priests should also thank those who tell the truth, no matter how hard it may be to hear it.
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Post by RitaMarita on May 7, 2019 11:41:15 GMT -5
Yes... The whole situation was very sad... I was shocked and disappointed to see how quickly word went around because of that post defaming Mr. Sharpe...
If only more trad priests were humble and charitable like Fr Collins...
Requiescat in pace...
We shall miss him... 😔
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Post by Clotilde on May 7, 2019 14:55:11 GMT -5
Yes... The whole situation was very sad... I was shocked and disappointed to see how quickly word went around because of that post defaming Mr. Sharpe... If only more trad priests were humble and charitable like Fr Collins... Requiescat in pace... We shall miss him... 😔 Our family is at quite a loss as well. I'm not certain where we will go for future sacraments or good counsel if an issue should arise. Few had his degree of training and understanding of the Crisis.
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Post by RitaMarita on May 7, 2019 20:37:50 GMT -5
Yes... The whole situation was very sad... I was shocked and disappointed to see how quickly word went around because of that post defaming Mr. Sharpe... If only more trad priests were humble and charitable like Fr Collins... Requiescat in pace... We shall miss him... 😔 Our family is at quite a loss as well. I'm not certain where we will go for future sacraments or good counsel if an issue should arise. Few had his degree of training and understanding of the Crisis. I think that there are many people out there who feel the same... 😣 I felt like I could always completely trust Father's advice and judgment. There isn't really another traditional Catholic priest I have met who I could say the same for. I am just grateful that Father was able to be the minister for our wedding. We had considered asking him to baptize our baby before Father was diagnosed with the cancer. So, it has a bit heart rending to have him die the very day before Alexander was baptized. We hope to name our 2nd son Joseph Joachim partially in honor and memory of Father Collins. May God bring us more good priests like him...
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 14, 2019 14:14:09 GMT -5
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 14, 2019 14:17:23 GMT -5
: You are a BOLD-FACED LIAR. My words assert only factual truths. My words do not constitute an assertion that Trump is in fact a Mason. YOU ARE CONSTRUCTING A FALSE INFERENCE AND YOU DECEPTIVELY ATTRIBUTE IT TO ME. You lie like a MASON!
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 14, 2019 14:19:05 GMT -5
If you read the thread exchange from the op to this last outburst...I was actually very surprised. Read it before he deletes it.
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Post by RitaMarita on May 15, 2019 8:15:22 GMT -5
If you read the thread exchange from the op to this last outburst...I was actually very surprised. Read it before he deletes it. It was deleted already before I had a chance to see it. Sort of like Fr. Cekeda deleted the post against John... Who is Fr. Kramer and what was the decision about exactly? That Trump was or wasn't a Mason?
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 15, 2019 17:03:23 GMT -5
He posted a photo of Pres Trump with his hands in the air and asserted the POTUS was displaying a freemasonic stance to send a message...I took issue with him to supply further proof of Trump being a mason...it went downhill from there. I was shocked as he went almost instantly ad hominum against me. If I was a Pope I would ban all Priests from social media except email.
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Post by Clotilde on May 15, 2019 18:13:32 GMT -5
He posted a photo of Pres Trump with his hands in the air and asserted the POTUS was displaying a freemasonic stance to send a message...I took issue with him to supply further proof of Trump being a mason...it went downhill from there. I was shocked as he went almost instantly ad hominum against me. If I was a Pope I would ban all Priests from social media except email. I could view it still. How odd. The whole story was ridiculous. He seems a bit touchy. If you are going to post something absurd or open to interpretation, you should expect people to point out the weaknesses. Maybe even poke a bit of fun at it, if it is not serious. You are racking up deletion/banning points, Vox!
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 15, 2019 21:09:27 GMT -5
oh he unblocked me so he could call me a malicious liar.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 15, 2019 21:11:48 GMT -5
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 16, 2019 4:04:29 GMT -5
So Priest Kramer...friended me again just to say this...then boom blocked me:
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