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Post by Voxxkowalski on Mar 19, 2017 12:33:45 GMT -5
THIS a thread started from the Prayer board...the topic was interesting so I split it off and started hereThank you Myra...I am a bit shocked how spiritually stressful adult children can be. When thay were babys and little ones I was stressed for their physical safety all the time...but worrying about their souls and relational issues is much harder. So thank you for your prayers. This could be a good discussion to have elsewhere on the forum? Anyone?
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Post by RitaMarita on Mar 19, 2017 19:33:04 GMT -5
Thank you Myra...I am a bit shocked how spiritually stressful adult children can be. When thay were babys and little ones I was stressed for their physical safety all the time...but worrying about their souls and relational issues is much harder. So thank you for your prayers. This could be a good discussion to have elsewhere on the forum? Anyone? It is so sad, but so true... I know many traditional Catholic families who struggle with this problem... I think that creating a discussion would be a good way for everyone to discuss methods and ways which they have found to help in different situations. Having others share what they have learned may then help who are in the similar positions. Maybe people also have ideas to prevent our children and family members from going down the wrong roads. I had so many of my close friends lose the faith, religion, morality when they went off to college... I was completely shocked and could not understand it at first and overreacted with making everything much worse. Just knowing how to deal with people and understand why they are doing what they are doing might help us all be more patient and able to figure out what is the best way to help them. Obviously, besides prayer, fasting and penance (which we are ALL doing right now with Lent! )
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Mar 19, 2017 21:51:28 GMT -5
Thank you Myra...I am a bit shocked how spiritually stressful adult children can be. When thay were babys and little ones I was stressed for their physical safety all the time...but worrying about their souls and relational issues is much harder. So thank you for your prayers. This could be a good discussion to have elsewhere on the forum? Anyone? It is so sad, but so true... I know many traditional Catholic families who struggle with this problem... I think that creating a discussion would be a good way for everyone to discuss methods and ways which they have found to help in different situations. Having others share what they have learned may then help who are in the similar positions. Maybe people also have ideas to prevent our children and family members from going down the wrong roads. I had so many of my close friends lose the faith, religion, morality when they went off to college... I was completely shocked and could not understand it at first and overreacted with making everything much worse. Just knowing how to deal with people and understand why they are doing what they are doing might help us all be more patient and able to figure out what is the best way to help them. Obviously, besides prayer, fasting and penance (which we are ALL doing right now with Lent! ) I don't really have any answers; my children are young. But, I will say that I see many now-grown adults whose parents were very permissive or lenient as far as the TLM or religion went, maybe didn't want to "force" it on them too much, who now don't go to church at all. I have also seen parents who followed "the letter of the law" but never taught to their children about loving God, Thanking God, having a real, daily, childlike-interest in God whose children have all fallen away, also. I think they made religion/church a burden. So those are both things right now that I'm trying to steer away from.
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Post by RitaMarita on Mar 20, 2017 6:43:30 GMT -5
It is so sad, but so true... I know many traditional Catholic families who struggle with this problem... I think that creating a discussion would be a good way for everyone to discuss methods and ways which they have found to help in different situations. Having others share what they have learned may then help who are in the similar positions. Maybe people also have ideas to prevent our children and family members from going down the wrong roads. I had so many of my close friends lose the faith, religion, morality when they went off to college... I was completely shocked and could not understand it at first and overreacted with making everything much worse. Just knowing how to deal with people and understand why they are doing what they are doing might help us all be more patient and able to figure out what is the best way to help them. Obviously, besides prayer, fasting and penance (which we are ALL doing right now with Lent! ) I don't really have any answers; my children are young. But, I will say that I see many now-grown adults whose parents were very permissive or lenient as far as the TLM or religion went, maybe didn't want to "force" it on them too much, who now don't go to church at all. I have also seen parents who followed "the letter of the law" but never taught to their children about loving God, Thanking God, having a real, daily, childlike-interest in God whose children have all fallen away, also. I think they made religion/church a burden. So those are both things right now that I'm trying to steer away from. Well, at least we can all pray for each other's families!
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Post by Lynne on Mar 20, 2017 11:02:40 GMT -5
I don't really have any answers; my children are young. But, I will say that I see many now-grown adults whose parents were very permissive or lenient as far as the TLM or religion went, maybe didn't want to "force" it on them too much, who now don't go to church at all. I have also seen parents who followed "the letter of the law" but never taught to their children about loving God, Thanking God, having a real, daily, childlike-interest in God whose children have all fallen away, also. I think they made religion/church a burden. So those are both things right now that I'm trying to steer away from. This!
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Mar 21, 2017 5:01:19 GMT -5
God answered my prayers and all yours...thank you. Ill ask we dismiss further discussion as this is prayer board. Ill split off some of these good comments and start a new thread when I get a chance.
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Post by MiriamM on Mar 21, 2017 11:40:55 GMT -5
Shall do. (This kind of thing is an issue in my home, as well. Let us pray for each other.)
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Post by Lynne on Mar 23, 2017 11:43:24 GMT -5
Well, you can't pass on what you haven't received. I didn't come back to the Church till my daughter was a teenager so I did not do a good job of passing on the faith to her. However, now I like to think I'm a good witness and I finally finished a quilt for her bed in which I hid a blessed green scapular.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Mar 23, 2017 15:01:29 GMT -5
Well, you can't pass on what you haven't received. I didn't come back to the Church till my daughter was a teenager so I did not do a good job of passing on the faith to her. However, now I like to think I'm a good witness and I finally finished a quilt for her bed in which I hid a blessed green scapular. Sneaky
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Mar 23, 2017 15:06:57 GMT -5
The guilt I feel sometimes on this matter is to a level it paralyzes me.
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Post by RitaMarita on Mar 23, 2017 18:36:38 GMT -5
Well, you can't pass on what you haven't received. I didn't come back to the Church till my daughter was a teenager so I did not do a good job of passing on the faith to her. However, now I like to think I'm a good witness and I finally finished a quilt for her bed in which I hid a blessed green scapular. I love how people hide the green scapulars and everything! What a great idea with the quilt! She will never find it there! I have friends that take maybe a hundred with them whenever they go on trips and hide them everywhere. I have not been as good about it myself, but recently sent seven to a traditional Catholic Texas whose parents were having trouble. So, at least I do a little here and there...
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Post by RitaMarita on Mar 23, 2017 18:45:04 GMT -5
The guilt I feel sometimes on this matter is to a level it paralyzes me. None of us is perfect, Voxx... So, don't let the past trouble you. I remember the saints say something like God allows us to fall short of perfection in order to keep us humble. And also that God allows us to feel guilty over our past in order remind us to try all the harder to lead a more spiritually aware life. Besides, from what I can tell, you haven't really done that bad of a job. Your kids have the influence of traditional Catholic parents! That certainly has to count for something! How I wish my parents were traditional...but... at least they raised us as best they could and really did preserve us from a lot of bad things! If even the saints had trouble with their children, of course all the rest of us will too. Look at Saint Monica and Saint Augustine for example... Like Saint Monica we just have to be patience and persevere in prayer.
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Post by Marya Dabrowski on Mar 23, 2017 20:26:24 GMT -5
Just came across this youtube. It's from Protestants (wish it was Catholic) but interesting none the less. It's about pulling kids out of public schools because it is making them lose their faith. I realize this might strike a nerve with you Voxx...but once again, it's interesting.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on Mar 24, 2017 4:46:22 GMT -5
Well Im in "Pencils up!" Mode...they are adults now. I cant go back and redo it. Its terrifying sometimes.
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Post by Lynne on Mar 24, 2017 6:12:54 GMT -5
Well Im in "Pencils up!" Mode...they are adults now. I cant go back and redo it. Its terrifying sometimes. That's a great expression. Yes, it is terrifying but we can storm Heaven with our prayers and sacrifices. There's a great prayer to St. Anne for a wayward child. I'll post it later...
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