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Post by Pacelli on Nov 12, 2017 15:02:26 GMT -5
Eric Hoyle vs the Dimond Brothers, Federal Lawsuit claiming fraud and unjust enrichement on the part of the Dimond brothers: PDF of lawsuit linked HERE
Some may claim that since the Dimonds won the lawsuit, therefore they must not be guilty, but the judge could only decide this case using the standards of our secular democracy which cannot look at the truth of internal religious conflicts. While it is conceded that the Dimonds won in court, for a Catholic, using Catholic standards, the facts demonstrate a public demonstration of guilt against these men. They had no right to represent themselves as religious Brothers, their entire order was a fabrication. They did not even attempt to follow Canon law in their taking of funds from Mr. Hoyle. I will be posting some texts demonstrating the proper course of action for a real religious order to follows in such cases. While civil law in our secular country cannot properly judge this case, Church courts most certainly can, and the documents of this case should be preserved and sent to the Holy See when the Church reforms.
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Butterfly3
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Post by Butterfly3 on Mar 6, 2022 12:32:38 GMT -5
oh wow! I didn't know that It's been some time ago, but still wow. I got on some website recently and I think one of the brothers left his position. I don't know the details, but I am a little curious, but it's wrong anyway, so I don't really want to get sucked into all that. I do think they say a lot of good things, besides the bob and bod they/or just one now disagrees with.
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Post by Pacelli on Mar 7, 2022 18:07:34 GMT -5
oh wow! I didn't know that It's been some time ago, but still wow. I got on some website recently and I think one of the brothers left his position. I don't know the details, but I am a little curious, but it's wrong anyway, so I don't really want to get sucked into all that. I do think they say a lot of good things, besides the bob and bod they/or just one now disagrees with. Yes, it's wise to stay away from them. What they did to Mr. Hoyle is enough to not go near them, but the bigger issue is that they have not learned their Faith properly and due to that have adopted errors against the Faith. Their spirit is very aggressive and due to that they foment a schismatic mindset. I hope for their conversion from their errors and also that they pay back the money to Mr. Hoyle. Nothing , especially money, is worth eternal damnation.
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Post by Butterfly3 on May 23, 2022 21:22:56 GMT -5
A while back ago, I ordered some books from them. Should I throw them away? Some of their books are ok, aren't they? I can tell you what books I got from them maybe it matters?
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Post by Pacelli on May 23, 2022 23:45:33 GMT -5
A while back ago, I ordered some books from them. Should I throw them away? Some of their books are ok, aren't they? I can tell you what books I got from them maybe it matters? It's true that some things they say are true, and for many they have helped them, but always remember that they mix truth with error, so they are dangerous. Be careful and use critical thinking if you choose to listen to them. Nothing they say should be taken at face value, and even when they source things, the primary sources should be read, and even when primary sources are read, the context must be ascertained to make sure that it is properly understood. It is very easy to be led astray in theological matters, it's extremely complex, so all I can say is be very, very careful. My general advice is to stick with the approved theologians who were highly regarded and know for their orthodoxy prior to the Council and read and learn from them. Be careful of modern speakers and writers, especially anyone that is agenda driven, and use great discernment.
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Post by Butterfly3 on May 24, 2022 10:30:36 GMT -5
Ok, thanks. I bought a lot of copies of a book and gave one of them away. Do you think that was a sin to do that? Like should I say that in confession? The book is called, The bible proves the teachings of the catholic church. I've not read the whole thing, but someone from church said it was ok. They said most everything is ok to read and listen to them besides the denial of baptism of blood and desire as they don't believe this. But that I think is dogma or catholic teaching. The baptism of blood the earliest I can find is from the 3rd century! That was recent too the feast day of Sts. Donation (I think) and Rogation, two bothers.
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Post by Voxxkowalski on May 31, 2022 20:04:47 GMT -5
sin is an act of the will and cannot be done accidentally at least not mortal sin.
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